I'm not a clutching expert but I do have a PB80 that I have tested on my 900's.

The biggest thing about the PB80 is its simplicity and ease of making changes to it (spring and weights) in order to tune it to achieve the desired performance gains.

It is very easy to disassemble and has fewer moving parts to wear out and it tends to be lighter than stock clutches.

 

It also engages smoother than the TRA did and that was the selling point for me. The 1200 would buck and buck with the TRA in slow\low speed maneuvers.

Easy to Clean and Adjust are just added benefits for me.

GutZ

 

The biggest thing is its simplicity and how easily and quickly you can tune it. The 1200 loves to run at 87-8800 RPM, getting it there with the stock clutch isn't easy or cheap. Basically, compared to a stock sled, you can put this on with the right spring / weight combo for instant and very noticeable performance gains. The low maintenance and light weight are other added benefits. For the cost, it's probably the best bang for the buck with regards to performance.

 

The real selling point is durability...i had people coming at my booth at a few powersport show with 40000-60000km done on their pb80 without changin anything....Because tunability isnt so great..yes its easy to change springs and weight but you cannot ever change the ramp profile as in this case it's the cap playing the role

 

The real selling point is durability...i had people coming at my booth at a few powersport show with 40000-60000km done on their pb80 without changin anything....Because tunability isnt so great..yes its easy to change springs and weight but you cannot ever change the ramp profile as in this case it's the cap playing the role

So if someone out there could change the cap? Or even machine the plastic slider\carrier.

Even more adaptability with an ease of adjustment.

Hmmm, any machinists out there with PB80s?

GutZ

 

It's 2.5 pounds lighter as well..

 

Not sure about long term durability for my application but I ran a PB 80 on my 2016 800 etec with great results. The sled vibrated less than the tra and had a noticeable performance gain when compared to my buddies 2016 800 etec.

Weight savings was 4 lbs of rotating mass compared to the tra.

As others have posted....very simple clutch to work on.

 

Ease of tuning is what sold me on them. Had to replace a broken tra on my 11 renegade and put a Bill Cudney kit (pb80 included) on it and wow, what a difference. Pb80 does it all. Easy to tune, increases performance, very low maintenance and reasonably priced. Have had 5 1200's and 4 of them got pb80's including the 1200 I just picked up in the spring.

 

I put 2000 miles on a 17 stock 1200 enduro = a lot of fun

I put 3000 miles on another 17 enduro with a cudney Pb-80 set up= A hell of a lot more fun! and like said above, very easy to work on, very few parts, lighter, and quiet compared to my Edrive 2 at certain RPM's.

 

So if someone out there could change the cap? Or even machine the plastic slider\carrier.

Even more adaptability with an ease of adjustment.

Hmmm, any machinists out there with PB80s?

GutZ

IF you want a lil bit higher engagement and different profile there is the m8 pb80 clutch cap wich is made a bit different....as for machining the cap i'm not sure its stamped.. theres not a lot of material to work with...

 

For higher engagement put a CVTECH 1151-1133 spring in it. You'll be in the 3100-3300 rpm range on engagement.

 

For higher engagement put a CVTECH 1151-1133 spring in it. You'll be in the 3100-3300 rpm range on engagement.

That's the 800/1300 spring, I'm running the 700/1300 with a CR9 helix and Ski-doo purple spring and it's bang on perfect. Slightly higher engagement, but very smooth, 8700-8800 RPM all day.

 

I put a 700/1300 in my pb80, Dalton 50/44 helix with a Dalton red spring. Did not have this setup before winter was over (everything was stock) and am looking forward to trying this out this winter. Have had multiple Cudney setups and wanted to try something different.

 

For higher engagement put a CVTECH 1151-1133 spring in it. You'll be in the 3100-3300 rpm range on engagement.

with higher rpm clutch engagement, i'd assume the sled would have more "pop" during low speed acceleration

cheers

 

Simple design and very durable.

 

I put a 700/1300 in my pb80, Dalton 50/44 helix with a Dalton red spring. Did not have this setup before winter was over (everything was stock) and am looking forward to trying this out this winter. Have had multiple Cudney setups and wanted to try something different.

What weight are you running? I'm right at 100g each puck and like I said, my RPMs are bang on 87-8800. It doesn't pull and keep pulling like my mod'd 09, but I'm more than happy with this one stock with just clutching.

 

Simple design and very durable.

I agree put 10000 miles on before I even opened it up. Unreal how good of shape it was. Spot on out of the box bolt it on and forget it.

I would put one on every clutched toy I own if I was replacing a clutch.

 

I've started with 8 pucks which if I remember correctly is around 97g. No testing yet as the mods took place this summer. My 16 was fully modded with Boost's program but I decided to not go that route this time. Will do everything else I can with out touching the ecm(no header or muffler mod)

 

I've started with 8 pucks which if I remember correctly is around 97g. No testing yet as the mods took place this summer. My 16 was fully modded with Boost's program but I decided to not go that route this time. Will do everything else I can with out touching the ecm(no header or muffler mod)

What performance changes did you realize with Boost's mod's .... quicker acceleration .. higher top end ?

Cheers

 

What performance changes did you realize with Boost's mod's .... quicker acceleration .. higher top end ?

Cheers

I would put it around plus 15 hp. Header, muff mod, ecu, airbox mod.

 

I run the 800/1300, 96gram blocks, cudney helix, cudney sliver spring, xtx belt, 24/45 gearing, Rip II 1.5 lug. It hauls good..

 

I would put it around plus 15 hp. Header, muff mod, ecu, airbox mod.

Excellent ! .... pretty close to the 900ace turbo

Cheers

 

My 1200 is still the top dog in Doo's 4 stroke lineup cause the 900 Turbo simply doesn't exist in my mind! never heard or seen one, nope.

 

I don't think it will be close to the 900T. Guys are saying the 900 will run with the 850's. The 850's are quick. For what the 1200 has, it is quick. I had an 850 and it was fast, but I am back on a 1200. Boosts program made the sled excellerate quicker definitely. Not sure on top end, never tested after the program went in. It did do 186 km/h when only clutched and geared (45). I had a few small issues after the ecm program so that is why I will stay away this time and do everything else.

 

I don't think it will be close to the 900T. Guys are saying the 900 will run with the 850's. The 850's are quick. For what the 1200 has, it is quick. I had an 850 and it was fast, but I am back on a 1200. Boosts program made the sled excellerate quicker definitely. Not sure on top end, never tested after the program went in. It did do 186 km/h when only clutched and geared (45). I had a few small issues after the ecm program so that is why I will stay away this time and do everything else.

What were your issues?