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Very nice! Built like a tank.

You could add a couple crazy carpets to the underside of the floor with a smooth curve, would prevent the cross members from snagging, give you a little more floatation in deep snow. Leave a little room for any snow or ice to melt away and dry.

Well, I think I've got probably the worst firewood hauling sleigh out there. Just built it last year.

We had an terribly rough winter and I never got to try it out loaded on hard packed trails, but I did pull it once in fresh powder. It was all my SWT v-800 could do to pull it empty since it sunk enough that the snow caught the cross bars. The runners are about 8 feet long, triple rough 2x6 pine with uhmw underneith held on with countersunk deck screws. The vertical bars are 2 foot jackleg steel, used in mining, and fit perfectly inside 1 inch black pipe.

Sees like these komatic style sleighs are for hard snow only. Hopefully I'll post up some big loads this winter.
 
Nice build, takes some load of the sled with front sleigh pivoted from the rear.

Basically what we here call a "timmerdoning" based on the sleighs used when the logging where made by horses and it have worked for over 100 years.

Make a google pic search for Timmerdoning skoter and there are a bunch of different pics with short and long ones used for logging/wood hauling of free length wood up to 20 feet or more .
Thanks for the Timmerdoning name to search I got a whole bunch of ideas now, started making skis today.
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Great videos bigmikael !!
Looks exactly like the kind of riding and work that we do. I could have made the same videos, even the scenery looks the same around our cabin !!

I'm new to this forum here, and this is my 1st post. I registered last week because I bought a 2000 SWT 500. Nice condition, low mileage. This is my first Ski-Doo machine. Before that, I used my old... well you may not believe what is my other sled !!

Our cabin belongs to close relatives (me, my Dad, brother, uncles, cousins), the sleds we have are mostly WTs (550 and 600LC), and we also have a couple old Alpines (640 and 503). Sleds are used to open up trails, haul wood, riding around for fun of course, and we also have a small maple syrup production in the spring.

Back on the topic of sleighs, we have 3 of them. One is mostly used for hauling wood, it is a 4 skis design with cross chains, like in the videos, although somewhat smaller. We have a plywood box that we can put on it so we can carry logs cut in 16in lengths (what we do most of the time).

The other sleigh is like a larger and sturdier dog sleigh (one can ride standing up behind). All made of oak and maple, also made by my Dad, and is almost a work of art ! We mainly use it to carry our stuff to and from our cabin, which is only accessible by snowmobile, or haul water (no running water at the cabin).

The last sleigh we have is used mainly in the spring to carry the maple sap. It is a very sturdy, flat sleigh, and we strap a large 45gal plastic barrel on it. It is also made of oak and maple, but the underside and runners are all metal (stainless steel actually) because quite often at the end of the maple season there isn't much snow left and we ride in the mud, gravel and rocks.

I'll see if I can find a few pictures, if not I'll take a few next winter, and some SWT videos as well.

Carl in Quebec City
 
Well, I think I've got probably the worst firewood hauling sleigh out there. Just built it last year.

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We had an terribly rough winter and I never got to try it out loaded on hard packed trails, but I did pull it once in fresh powder. It was all my SWT v-800 could do to pull it empty since it sunk enough that the snow caught the cross bars. The runners are about 8 feet long, triple rough 2x6 pine with uhmw underneith held on with countersunk deck screws. The vertical bars are 2 foot jackleg steel, used in mining, and fit perfectly inside 1 inch black pipe.

Sees like these komatic style sleighs are for hard snow only. Hopefully I'll post up some big loads this winter.
I was just thinking, how did you get that sleigh full of wood on that trailer?
 
Great videos bigmikael !!
Looks exactly like the kind of riding and work that we do. I could have made the same videos, even the scenery looks the same around our cabin !!

I'm new to this forum here, and this is my 1st post. I registered last week because I bought a 2000 SWT 500. Nice condition, low mileage. This is my first Ski-Doo machine. Before that, I used my old... well you may not believe what is my other sled !!

Our cabin belongs to close relatives (me, my Dad, brother, uncles, cousins), the sleds we have are mostly WTs (550 and 600LC), and we also have a couple old Alpines (640 and 503). Sleds are used to open up trails, haul wood, riding around for fun of course, and we also have a small maple syrup production in the spring.

Back on the topic of sleighs, we have 3 of them. One is mostly used for hauling wood, it is a 4 skis design with cross chains, like in the videos, although somewhat smaller. We have a plywood box that we can put on it so we can carry logs cut in 16in lengths (what we do most of the time).

The other sleigh is like a larger and sturdier dog sleigh (one can ride standing up behind). All made of oak and maple, also made by my Dad, and is almost a work of art ! We mainly use it to carry our stuff to and from our cabin, which is only accessible by snowmobile, or haul water (no running water at the cabin).

The last sleigh we have is used mainly in the spring to carry the maple sap. It is a very sturdy, flat sleigh, and we strap a large 45gal plastic barrel on it. It is also made of oak and maple, but the underside and runners are all metal (stainless steel actually) because quite often at the end of the maple season there isn't much snow left and we ride in the mud, gravel end rocks.

I'll see if I could find a few pictures, if not I'll take a few next winter, and some SWT videos as well.

Carl in Quebec City
Sounds like fun. Welcome to Dootalk Carl, this will become a curse for you. You will find yourself looking at these forums in the middle of the summer and your wife will think you're on crack or something!
 
I'll see if I can find a few pictures, if not I'll take a few next winter, and some SWT videos as well.
Ok I found a few pictures of our sleds.
But I only have one picture of our wood hauling sleigh, and not a very good one.
First you can see my brother working at skinning a log, as we were building a small porch for the cabin. The sleigh looks smaller than it really is. As I said, it is a 4 skis design, and most of the time we have this plywood box on top of it to carry logs. The box is 10ft long. The front skis are regular snowmobile metal skis with leaf suspension from the '70s era. The rear skis came from a old Ski-Boose, which had much longer skis, like 4ft long. Crossed chains links the front and rear skis and allow the sleigh to turn pretty tight. We can adjust the length of the chains for longer logs when we don't use the box. We use automotive style ball and coupler, and the tow bar is attached right at the tip of the front skis so the front end doesn't get caught if we hit a stump or something, the angle in he tow bar makes it slide away.

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Next is our 'all-purpose" sleigh. We use it for pretty much anything, carry our stuff, ride around, haul water and wood.
Note that the tow bar is attached to the sleigh almost near the center of it. This allows the sleigh total freedom to ride the bumps without pulling up and down on the rear of the snowmobile, so you don't really feel it when towing.
It is mostly made of maple and oak that was steamed and bent. It has metal reinforcements where needed (all painted blue), the bottom is a 3/8" plywood, and we have a removable "seat" we can put in to carry a passenger (not shown).
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Finally our 3rd sleigh is the one we use in the spring during the maple season. You can see it with the 45gal plastic drum we use to collect the maple sap.
Made of steamed and bent oak and maple, the one is very sturdy, and somewhat heavy for it's size. It has this little box in front where we carry pails, tools, etc. We also have a larger plywood box that we can install instead of the plastic drum, so we can use the sleigh to carry wood or whatever. The runners are slightly bent upward at the rear also, to make it easier to back it up. Sometimes in the spring the snow is bad, the sleigh gets heavy when the drum is full, so we need the ability to back up easily in case we get stuck.
Like I said, quite often at the end of the maple season there isn't much snow left, and there is a lot of mud, rocks and gravel in the trail. We needed the sleigh to withstand this, so the whole underside and runners are capped with a sheet of stainless steel.
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Carl
 
I was just thinking, how did you get that sleigh full of wood on that trailer?
The sleigh was already on the trailer when I loaded it.
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The trailer is a 26'x9' tilt. I built it so I could drive on with two snowmobiles towing sleighs and not have to unhitch anything. It makes tieing down everything very easy, especially the enclosed sleigh.

It's also very handy for moving ice shacks, the length makes for a very shallow angle to winch the shacks up on the trailer. At the front I have a 2" and 1.25" receiver so I can attach my 9000 or 3500 lbs winches.
 
The sleigh was already on the trailer when I loaded it.
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The trailer is a 26'x9' tilt. I built it so I could drive on with two snowmobiles towing sleighs and not have to unhitch anything. It makes tieing down everything very easy, especially the enclosed sleigh.

It's also very handy for moving ice shacks, the length makes for a very shallow angle to winch the shacks up on the trailer. At the front I have a 2" and 1.25" receiver so I can attach my 9000 or 3500 lbs winches.
Very good idea with the trailer. I figured it had to be something like that.
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A friend of mine has one made just like the old time horse drawn bob sleighs in miniature. Both sets of skis , front and rear,can be streed . The rear end of the right front ski is attached by a chain to the front of the left rear ski. The rear end of the left front ski connects to front end of right rear ski. This sled really tracks nicely through the trees.
 
Inspired by this thread and the $600 price tag on a large Otter sled, I tried a custom wood hauling sleigh build.

I wanted to be able to haul blocked firewood and designed this home-made sled from mainly free materials I had kicking around:

  • 2 downhill skis and 2x6" for runners
  • 3" abs pipe to protect front of runners.
  • rigid conduit (pipe) and hinges for draw-bar
  • plywood for the box

box is 40" wide (matching 1995 Ski-doo Touring ski stance) x 85" long.

It's probably over-engineered (i.e., heavier than necessary) in some places and insufficiently strong in others (e.g., the hitch hindges), but I wanted to start with free materials I had on hand and replace as needed.

we'll have to wait for a good crust in the bush and try her out for hauling...

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Big box wooden komatik. Hard to beat for junked wood. Some people build the box as more of a "fence" with lumber spaced 2-4" apart to shed bark/debris/dirt. A plastic tub can also work but won't take the same pounding.

The "best" is very hard to define as it depends on your terrain, your choice of wood and how you haul it i.e. junks vs. lengths.
This is what we use. A closed in fence like box. You junk up the wood and throw it in. Most efficient as we've been doing it for many decades.
 
Maplelogger we used to use the same idea as yours but the bottom was the old style corrugated metal roofing. Make a couple trips on a cold day and let it set up overnight and it was like a groomed trail. It never really tried to slide sideways because of the corrugations in it. We had a rope hitch with pipe on it so it wouldn't try to run you over. But you could get a little slack to give it a little jerk to get it started. Used to pull about 3/8 a face cord with a 1979 300 citation!
 
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