[SKI-CAT-DOO]

View attachment 2026436 Garmin Tread

What size Tread is that 5.5" or 8"? Awesome looking unit.

 

[jcjc]

Gave up on the GPS systems-- IMO the On X Offroad app for you phone is the way to go--why because it is updated all the time--the trail moves-- the app up dates and shows the new route. Track a trip on the app-- when you get home and start your computer--your trip is already there. In fact all your trips will be saved. You have the option of dirt or snow for routes so it also works for your summer trips. It is satellite imagery so you can zoom in and see connections that are "woods and cut" roads that will not show up on GPS. With the glove box extension your phone is the GPS.

So the Bad-- well you need to down load maps to your phone (if you are riding out of cell phone reception), it does cost $29.99 a year, and if you do not have a way to display your phone when riding it makes it difficult. Bottom line it is a fraction of the cost of OEM and stand alone GPS systems and for me it is way better.

did you have any issues with cold weather impacting the performance of your phone?

 

[srocher]

I choose not to pay for the upgraded gauges but do run a Garmin Montana and will probably buy a Zumo XT for next season because I can take it into the restaurant or hotel room and plan the rest of our ride. I also put the Montana on my dirt bike and even mount it on my Seadoo so I get my moneys worth out of it.

 

[Jason Blier]

I don’t know why more people don’t run a Garmin Montana on a powered ram mount. It has InReach, snowmobile trail maps, and when my sled is parked for the summer, the Garmin is still useful. Plus its more accurate and faster responding than a built in unit at 1/2 the price and 5x the usefulness.

To each their own I guess…

 

[cr500r]

I'm 40, Does no one use maps anymore? i still use a map.

This is a good question. No one had GPS, until GPS became widely available and even affordable. I remember my first Magellan GPS that was under $100. It would only show numbers and in order to find one's way back to

Gosh you are funny. A few screen lock ups and you are calling BRP GO/display better? Why don't you educate yourself a little bit before you post trash like that.

I'm glad that you have a sense of humor about it all.

Here on dooTalk, there is no updated OP, that looks more complicated to me than the Declaration of Independence or, my gosh, have you seen it?

All I have had to do is make sure my cheap, Android Duraforce2 phone has the right settings, make sure Bluetooth is on, plug it into the sled, and I can bee bop, all over the trail maps.

I'd need a PhD, that is Piled high (and) Deep, to get through those 300 posts, that I sure did not make on HCS about the 7S and whatever updates it seems to need.

It has to be a very good (job security), when the entire project has such incredible potential, but a price has to be paid. It is as if the software creators have the (moneybags) in a hostage situation, to fix/update, the problems.

It is amazing how well a map/chart, works on even the most basic $249 iPad, what with all the touch gestures to operate the system. There has to be something with the cold(seriously some of the ****tiest ass weather this nation has, amirite?) and the beating the screens/controls, have to take and keep on working . . .

As with the mountain guys, if one can simply lay down ones own breadcrumb trail to go to and from . . . our great, beloved, white unknown . . .

 

[Alatalo]

Ever been caught in weather on the mountains?
Or dropped into a place you needed to find a secondary route out. Having GPS on a gauge saves alot of time, when you can see it while riding. Interesting that the guys that do not have a GPS gauge rely on the guys that do all of a sudden.


I agree there is a awful lot of complaints or comments when guys do not even own the product.

I do understand the advantages of a well functioning GPS, but again FFS - people start complaint threads because they have one single hick up with the widely known best system...Like the function of it is mandatory. Like the gauge itself is more important than the sled, the ride and the memories from the ride...

Then again, I really don't need any of the modern gauges. I am almost always riding in familiar terrain and so far I have managed to find my way through, even during some serious blizzards.

 

[600dooagain]

I'm 33 and much prefer using a good ole paper map as well. although i do get out my phone and use ride command if needed.

I'm 40, Does no one use maps anymore? i still use a map.

 

[pistin broke]

I don’t know why more people don’t run a Garmin Montana on a powered ram mount. It has InReach, snowmobile trail maps, and when my sled is parked for the summer, the Garmin is still useful. Plus its more accurate and faster responding than a built in unit at 1/2 the price and 5x the usefulness.

To each their own I guess…

I don’t know why more people don’t run a Garmin Montana on a powered ram mount. It has InReach, snowmobile trail maps, and when my sled is parked for the summer, the Garmin is still useful. Plus its more accurate and faster responding than a built in unit at 1/2 the price and 5x the usefulness.

To each their own I guess…

I don’t know why more people don’t run a Garmin Montana on a powered ram mount. It has InReach, snowmobile trail maps, and when my sled is parked for the summer, the Garmin is still useful. Plus its more accurate and faster responding than a built in unit at 1/2 the price and 5x the usefulness.

To each their own I guess…

I don’t know why more people don’t run a Garmin Montana on a powered ram mount. It has InReach, snowmobile trail maps, and when my sled is parked for the summer, the Garmin is still useful. Plus its more accurate and faster responding than a built in unit at 1/2 the price and 5x the usefulness.

To each their own I guess…

Reading this thread I don't know how I snowmobiled for 36 years with only a speedo/odo , rpm and an inaccurate gas Guage . Must be a generational thing. I'm a boomer. When they added engine temp and trip b I was over the moon. All I will ever need. When I trail ride I plan the route off a map and look at the intersection signs. When I ride off trail in northern Ontario I look at the terrain and ride what appeals to me. When I want to come back I turn around and follow my track.
As to where this is going I have a mental image of a guy riding a sled with a 54 inch screen , cameras showing what's ahead and a map overlay. You know, like a video game.

 

[cr500r]

I don’t know why more people don’t run a Garmin Montana on a powered ram mount. It has InReach, snowmobile trail maps, and when my sled is parked for the summer, the Garmin is still useful. Plus its more accurate and faster responding than a built in unit at 1/2 the price and 5x the usefulness.

To each their own I guess…

It is a good question, for sure.

Why?, when there are relatively simple plug and play DIY(or even dealer/shop installs), systems/kits for GPS for sleds?

We, the people, must want the gauge, phone, the radio, the weather(yes) the weather, the engine gauges, Bluetooth, seeing fellow riders all around, incredible, detailed mapping/navigation.

There is no doubt the 7S is incredible. Same with the 10.25. Then whatever AC and Yamaha come up with for digital displaymanship.

 

[DooYouYou]

I'm 33 and much prefer using a good ole paper map as well. although i do get out my phone and use ride command if needed.

I keep a trail map in my bag and the wifes for every area we ride even the ones we know extremely well. I also have 7.8 screen, BRP Go as well and a Garmin InReach they all serve their purpose. To each there own whether they like the gauges or not. I still think a paper map is a must have in your sled so when technology sucks or runs out of battery you are not up a creek.

 

[cr500r]

I'm 33 and much prefer using a good ole paper map as well. although i do get out my phone and use ride command if needed.

It is funny, "back in the day", when the REV was new, the snowmobile trails had no maps. There was no signage. There were no information kiosks with a map, there was no internet(Ha, ok Boomer!), if trail maps were available, there was no buying them, and each and every time, we had made it out and back, easily.

There is something to be said, though, for when one is on a brand new trail system, for the first time, and the trails can all wind and spiderweb and without wasting any time or effort wondering with your fellow clueless riding buddies, know exactly which freshly groomed trail to take so we can string quick 50 mile, 50 mile, 50 mile, 40 mile, 30, mile, 25 mile, 20 mile, 10 mile=unstoppable miles, because we have a GPS and can see into the future. Freaking. Like. Yoda.


For those that follow the snow and where the best trails might/will be, I can see the value in GPS and especially GPS with the ability to lay a trail to follow back/wherever.

 

[cr500r]

For my record, I'd be happy with the 7S, or the 10.25. I would just have to study to learn all that updating and flash driving, and maybe even hash tagging for all I know.

It would be nice if they made an upgrade to G4 and I could get a 10.25 or, even the 7S.

Marine charting/GPS is almost foolproof.

Is it the cold?


It must be the money.


It must be why the highest cost for snowmobile, is going to be realized for 2024 delivery. The extra $$$ will go towards the perfection of the software to run all the systems.

 

[Jason Blier]

Reading this thread I don't know how I snowmobiled for 36 years with only a speedo/odo , rpm and an inaccurate gas Guage . Must be a generational thing. I'm a boomer. When they added engine temp and trip b I was over the moon. All I will ever need. When I trail ride I plan the route off a map and look at the intersection signs. When I ride off trail in northern Ontario I look at the terrain and ride what appeals to me. When I want to come back I turn around and follow my track.
As to where this is going I have a mental image of a guy riding a sled with a 54 inch screen , cameras showing what's ahead and a map overlay. You know, like a video game.

Exactly - I'm not against all the tech. I'm the type that uses a GPS to map an unfamiliar or risky locations until I'm comfortable - I also mark those areas / landmarks on a physical map. I barely look at my gauge and all I care about 95% of the time is Fuel and Temp when I do look at it.

Having said that - I CAN see where an integrated/add-on GPS that tracks you and your riding group could be a useful safety tool in the backcountry and mountains. But - electronics fail, and they should be a "nice to have" tool in addition to proficient, old-school mapping/navigating skills.

My biggest issue is the huge price premium for the integrated features vs paying 1/2 the $ for a standalone unit that is generally WAY more useful and versatile.

 

[cr500r]

Take off your blinders. Not everything your favorite brand does is awesome and better than the competition. Did you actively go search that out to feel better about yourself?

Ha.

I have got my blinders off. I just went to HCS, hit the NEW button, and there is the thread on the 7S. All 15 pages and 300 posts. The stuff in that first post, with all the instructions, my gosh, it is in different colors, and fonts, and bolded . . . Phew!

I did feel better about the 7.8" and BRP GO! because I'm just a simple man with simple needs.

 

[cr500r]

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Ever been caught in weather on the mountains?
Or dropped into a place you needed to find a secondary route out. Having GPS on a gauge saves alot of time, when you can see it while riding. Interesting that the guys that do not have a GPS gauge rely on the guys that do all of a sudden.


I agree there is a awful lot of complaints or comments when guys do not even own the product.

It is tough, or funny, when there are many that simply cannot understand why one would ever need something since they don't need/want it.

Like the weather (app).


I can only imagine, you guys being up in those mountains, like one might be offshore and need to see a snowstorm/squall, and need to run to safety, some just don't see that as where they are does not rely on them needing to get out of bad weather. Who goes offshore fishing, anyway?

One can also see how limited others are when there is quite a bit of value in being able to ride faster, farther, more efficiently, whatever, because one has a GPS and knows how to use it. Same with seeing if there are the blue blobs of thick snowfall and which direction they are coming/going . . . .

 

[spangler21]

i had a 7s last year on my matryx, and have a 10.25" this year on my Ski-Doo.

Both are great, and both are also hot garbage.

The only thing making the polaris' 7s better, is tha stand alone gps.

 

[cr500r]

I keep a trail map in my bag and the wifes for every area we ride even the ones we know extremely well. I also have 7.8 screen, BRP Go as well and a Garmin InReach they all serve their purpose. To each there own whether they like the gauges or not. I still think a paper map is a must have in your sled so when technology sucks or runs out of battery you are not up a creek.

Yes.

Like with rule #1 of emergencies.

Location.

Where the frick do we tell them to send the help?

The answer cannot be " . . . on some trail, somewhere, in the woods . . . "





Imagine the days before trail maps and signage, of any kind? OMGosh, the internet!

Next thread, "How about that speedometer?" Yeah, it goes to 60 mph but everyone knows that the top speed is 45 mph"

"Origins of the snowmobile Tachometer"

Snowmobile trivia;

"What factory sled had the first tachometer?"

 

[cr500r]

i had a 7s last year on my matryx, and have a 10.25" this year on my Ski-Doo.

Both are great, and both are also hot garbage.

The only thing making the polaris' 7s better, is tha stand alone gps.

Yes, this is priceless.

For some odd reason, I read about the exact same things in expensive motor vehicles and their "infotainment" systems. It has been reported that it is as if, one can afford the vehicle, who the heck will care about some iPad in the center console and how it works.

It is like that way with our snowmobiles. Most of us just don't care about the system and instead, focus on the riding.

The even better, funnier or, more interesting part is that the talk is on a machine that is now up to, what, do we really round up to $20K for a nice, new, top of the line Ski Doo?

Then, there are the helm systems in the big sportfishing boats that go into the millions and their displays are some $10,000 or at least $5,000.00 for a sonar/gps/radar. Their systems work flawlessly.

We just can't get it, yet.

I'm amazed when I see what both of the displays look like and all the features-just like on the marine displays, customizeable, all that jazz. I can only imagine the 10.25 or the 7S. Someday, I will aspire to the G5 with the 10.25 and the next rMotion and RAS.

 

[cr500r]

Reading this thread I don't know how I snowmobiled for 36 years with only a speedo/odo , rpm and an inaccurate gas Guage . Must be a generational thing. I'm a boomer. When they added engine temp and trip b I was over the moon. All I will ever need. When I trail ride I plan the route off a map and look at the intersection signs. When I ride off trail in northern Ontario I look at the terrain and ride what appeals to me. When I want to come back I turn around and follow my track.
As to where this is going I have a mental image of a guy riding a sled with a 54 inch screen , cameras showing what's ahead and a map overlay. You know, like a video game.

You have taken the keystrokes right away from my fingertips.

The 2004 REV had a, get this.




Wait for it.




































Digital odometer. But wait. There is more. The gauge had a(don't forget, a digital) Trip A and Trip B.

Yes.

Trip A and a Trip B. Digital.

One could finally leave trip A as recording the overall mileage for fuel consumption purposes, then using Trip B to figure distances to and from all the places we got to ride to.

Right, now there is digital/numerical/bars, for so many engine parameters.

It is all so very mind blowing and why I had started the thread.

 

[cr500r]

here in Ontario brp go map is updated all day long as like your x off-road as they work with the ofsc map as they are updated all day long as clubs update there trail status sure it has some faults as loose cell service some times but not for long you can track your riding buddies all so not sure how they do it in other states but I prefer it over my Garmin and the Polaris ride

I mean, come on, you guys " . . . up there . . . " have home. Freaking, court, advantage. You are in BRP/Doo's back yard. Youse guys is lucky up there.

I also look at the snow depth charts and it is never all that far north of the lake, and it is always covered up with snow, like, always. It must be why the residents have been mandated to have snow tires in the winter. Pretty cool.

We have to figure, with how well Ski Doo has been doing, that there must be many who ride on the ofsc.

It makes perfect sense that the system and how it should work is quite good up there eh?