All true and expert has shot standard while freeride is optional.. if you are comparing prices, also expert is only sled available in 175" and freeride is only spring check available in 146, (SP has 146)

I'd have a hard decision between the 2, but I'd probably go Expert to get the all black then add fox qs3 shock kit.

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Extra bracing on the Freeride.

 

Extra bracing on the Freeride.

What bracing is extra? I don't think it does anymore, the 146 has thicker boards in 2020 but now using the newer tunnel my guess is it will be same as expert

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rail brace on the fr not on the expert but if you really want it munster offer a nice package and quality/price i dont think you can beat it much better than doo ones for sure

 

What bracing is extra? I don't think it does anymore, the 146 has thicker boards in 2020 but now using the newer tunnel my guess is it will be same as expert

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There is a youtube video from Ski doo that list all the differences.

 

rail brace on the fr not on the expert but if you really want it munster offer a nice package and quality/price i dont think you can beat it much better than doo ones for sure

Aww yes the rail brace, if I bought a summit I would use the Munster brace anyway, it's more Skookum

 

the freeride had the new spindles and rubber stoppers as of last year (at least on the longer track models). you can see the additional rail bracing as it's the black colored section of metal on the outside surface of the rails and i've read in a couple diff articles that there's thicker sheet metal used in the tunnel. good call on getting the limiter strap, i added it to my freeride and enjoy the adjustability.

i'm a 5'10" and couple of things i changed were installing a lower riser and lowering the height of the seat. i see that the seat height on the 2021 models has now been lowered a bit.

 

I know it a small difference, but the expert has a even smaller seat that the freeride.

 

this is a thread from snowest with a cool pic of the reinforcements. it is referring to 2018 models but i bet it's still lthe same and if so, this is a better set up than buying an expert and adding rail stiffeners because you won't be getting the tunnel reinforcements with the expert. if you don't do much jumping though, then it's moot.

https://www.snowest.com/forum/threads/2018-ski-doo-taking-the-freeride-experience-to-the-next-level.431651/

 

I know it a small difference, but the expert has a even smaller seat that the freeride.

yeah, to me the expert seat height is ideal and that's about how i have mine now.

 

this is a thread from snowest with a cool pic of the reinforcements. it is referring to 2018 models but i bet it's still lthe same and if so, this is a better set up than buying an expert and adding rail stiffeners because you won't be getting the tunnel reinforcements with the expert. if you don't do much jumping though, then it's moot.

https://www.snowest.com/forum/threads/2018-ski-doo-taking-the-freeride-experience-to-the-next-level.431651/

With the drop of the 137, and how the 146/154/165 are pretty much identical with MY 2021, I wonder if all of this bracing seen in the second picture is still present? It seems like it was only available on the previous 137/146's (per what the picture is titled). Can anyone confirm the "3 MM aluminum sheet", "Front steel reinforcement", and "Rear aluminum reinforcement" was present on the longer Freerides (154/165)?

I do like to rack up the air miles and would appreciate all of this being present. I love working on things do not get me wrong, but ideally once the sled is on my trailer leaving the dealership, its ready to roll. I do not want to have to start adding things/swapping things.

It sure would be nice if Ski-Doo could be a little more detailed in their publications/website. If the Freeride has all of this bracing, why not flaunt it? Looking at the website its pretty hard to tell any difference between the Expert and the Freeride, other than the shock package.

It would also appear as though the Expert, for some reason, does have slightly smaller seat. They're both tiny so either or works for me.

 

My guess is those pieces are gone unless re designed for the new running boards, it's the reason I got the 146 besides I like to party. If I wanted a 154 the rails bolt right up and and add a track then I'd have a 20 Freeride expert. Id like to see someone with a 154/165 2020 confirm if they are there, the metal is under the tunnel.

The front is easy it won't be steel but you can get the aluminum running board brace, over time of very hard riding the front mount holes oval out. The rear you could add the racewerx drop bracket brace which is much stronger!!!

I only see the rear material helping if you like whips and land on the sides lots, the weakest point will be rear idler axle.

 

i looked under the tunnel of my FR (2020 165) and didn't see any obvious reinforcements. after looking at the second pic above i think the reinforcements were placed on the shorter models only to strengthen the running board attachment points as their boards don't have the upward angled portion at the rear that's attached to the tunnel as seen on the longer models. if that's the case, i wonder why the FR is still being made if the only difference now is just the better shock package as all summits minus the SP have the same running board attachment. why not just offer an Expert or X model with those shocks?

still though skidoo's marketing typically shows the FR in the air so it seems if they're gonna officially show that they're cool with jumping and this product is designed for that, then it seems there'd be something else to this model from a durability standpoint for that kind of activity than just better shocks.

https://sleddermag.com/2020-ski-doo-freeride/

 

i looked under the tunnel of my FR (2020 165) and didn't see any obvious reinforcements. after looking at the second pic above i think the reinforcements were placed on the shorter models only to strengthen the running board attachment points as their boards don't have the upward angled portion at the rear that's attached to the tunnel as seen on the longer models. if that's the case, i wonder why the FR is still being made if the only difference now is just the better shock package as all summits minus the SP have the same running board attachment. why not just offer an Expert or X model with those shocks?

still though skidoo's marketing typically shows the FR in the air so it seems if they're gonna officially show that they're cool with jumping and this product is designed for that, then it seems there'd be something else to this model from a durability standpoint for that kind of activity than just better shocks.

https://sleddermag.com/2020-ski-doo-freeride/

its only the 137/146 that show the thicker plate running boards. the 154/165 Freerides are just summits with resi shocks which should be on the summit x regardless.

Want an all black Freeride just get an expert and add the fox QS3 kit, best option in 21 IMO

 

They were rs board (3mm thick)....now they moved to summit board all the way on the freeride....