Gold Diggers and Power Points are almost the same. Just make sure you have the right length for your track. And that you balance the amount of studs to the amount of carbide.

 

Woodys triggers

 

I wanna do 168 with 126 up the middle. I have 8 inch Bergstrom carbides. Is that decent?

 

168 is gross overkill. Start with 86 and add more if needed

 

Only do them up the middle if that's a single ply track. If you do 126 you will need a good 8" of carbide.

This is not old iron and they do not need to be studded the same due to the weight transfer onto the rear skid. I had 84 in my XP 800 and with the stock 1" track and 126 would have been better for that combo. But when I replaced the track to a 1.25" Ripsaw 2 I put 84 studs in it. That was the perfect combo for my style of hard trail/lake riding. It's studs and a decent track together that make the most difference unless you are just wanting to do glare ice drags.

There's a ton on here that will tell you the studs they use but you need to know what track they are running with them.

 

If you have a two ply do triggers I have 168 and it's insane. If you have a single ply keep it light 126 3 per row up the middle 1.45. Or buy a ripsaw2 2ply and go full send. It will cost a **** ton but insane hook up. Wheelies for days.

 

If you have a two ply do triggers I have 168 and it's insane. If you have a single ply keep it light 126 3 per row up the middle 1.45. Or buy a ripsaw2 2ply and go full send. It will cost a "edit for bad language" ton but insane hook up. Wheelies for days.

There are big head triggers for the single ply now too.

 

There are big head triggers for the single ply now too.

Would you trust them in a old single ply track?

 

Would you trust them in a old single ply track?

I won't stud any single ply track so my opinion is biased!

 

I have used ripsaw off a 2015 ace 900. Is that single or two ply? I'm thinking single.

 

That track would be a single.

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When I read this topics heading I thought Dootalk had started a Personals section.

 

When I read this topics heading I thought Dootalk had started a Personals section.

Wait it's not?

 

Just get large head studs something in the 1.45 range run 3 per row. That's as much as I would run in a single ply. The large heads take up alot of room and don't like to bend over the drive cogs so I wouldn't put a ton.

 

I have a ‘17 TNT 900 ACE with the ripsaw track. I’m using the Woodys grand masters (90 up the middle) to keep the track warranty going. I have 4” doolys in the center and the 4” stock runners on the outside of the skis. After 300 miles I haven’t had an issue. Seems to be the perfect setup of balanced traction for me.

 

Just get large head studs something in the 1.45 range run 3 per row. That's as much as I would run in a single ply. The large heads take up alot of room and don't like to bend over the drive cogs so I wouldn't put a ton.

I may wanna do double backers using the Woodys 126 template.

 

I may wanna do double backers using the Woodys 126 template.

I would only do double backers with a single ply track. 126 is light but will work well maybe a 4 2 4 pattern. Or whatever it works out too. I had 126 on my 11. Didnt do much but it was good for safety and regular riding. I got beat by 10 length on ice vs my 10.5 etec with triggers just so you know what real traction is like.

 

This wins. You can even go longer but I would be a but worried it you trail ride it.

 

Here what I've done over the years:
2012 XRS - 126 woody's grand master up the middle In stock ripsaw track (sucked for launch on ice but was nice and controlled for trail riding)
2015 XRS - 168 roetin hornets/stingers in 1.54 length, every second bar had studs on the outside. This was in a ripsaw 2 track and it hooked hard on ice and retained trail manners
2019 XRS - in progress, 180 1.63 woody's triggers, 2 out of every 3 outside windows will be studded. Ripsaw 2 track. Stud boy super pro lite backers in the middle with round fastrac backers on the outside. Theory is that too many pro lite backers in the outside may cause push in the corners. Using a more standard backer on the outside should combat this. I expect this setup to hook HARD in pretty much all conditions, snow ice or hard pack.

That's been my experience. We run 84 grand masters in stock location just for safety on the wife's 600 sport.

 

This wins. You can even go longer but I would be a but worried it you trail ride it.

Is that the stock single ply track?

 

Also how effective are the Ice ripper and Ice attak tracks with hookup? The ones that come with the prestudded lugs. Anybody try them?

 

My 19 renegade 900ace hooks up great, i am glad I went that route. It has 156 little picks in it. I think it is the ice attack. I’m going to stud my 2020 900ace turbo xrs. The ice attack is great for safety but won’t hook up with higher power.

 

Is that the stock single ply track?

No that would be a bad idea.

 

Also how effective are the Ice ripper and Ice attak tracks with hookup? The ones that come with the prestudded lugs. Anybody try them?

Ice rippers vs studs. There is no comparison. Studs will hook up all day vs a ice ripper just spins. The screw in studs on the ice ripper are just to short to dig in like a stud does. A prestudded track is a half step up from a regular track

 

Also how effective are the Ice ripper and Ice attak tracks with hookup? The ones that come with the prestudded lugs. Anybody try them?

Unfortunately they are good for safety only but seem to work well. I'm going from a heavily studded weapon to a prestudded track spinning rene. I want some more traction but with 7000km (quebec km) on a single ply track I'm not sure if I really want to do more than two per row on top of the prestudded.

 

7300 miles on a single ply track with 2 studs per row and no issues. woody's grand master studs with round backers.

The real question is "Why would you need more than 96"? If you are racing on ice then yes more studs if not 96 works great. Maybe 120 if you have an 850.