your owners manual might tell ya

 

Have to take muffler off to get to filter and the access panel for the two drain plugs. Just take one screw out of panel and loosen other .slide panel out of way. 8 mm and a torch screw for drain plugs. hardest part was getting top springs back on muffler. someone has some pic or video on this forum try the search. good luck

 

your owners manual might tell ya

Once again I do not own 900 ace to have an owners manual. Sorry.

 

Once again I do not own 900 ace to have an owners manual. Sorry.

Hi Brian,

This link should get you to the online owner's manuals for the 900:

http://www.operatorsguides.brp.com/Index.aspx?lang=e&s1=b95bfc22-b5e9-40a3-a40a-2be31f7941b4&brands=skidoo&type=og

 

Hi Brian,

This link should get you to the online owner's manuals for the 900:

http://www.operatorsguides.brp.com/Index.aspx?lang=e&s1=b95bfc22-b5e9-40a3-a40a-2be31f7941b4&brands=skidoo&type=og

Thanks A lot!

 

My dealer said the easiest way is to use one of those oil suction tanks through the the dip stick hole. After removing the oil replace the filter and fill her back up.

 

Nothing on a 900 ace in those online manuals.

 

My dealer said the easiest way is to use one of those oil suction tanks through the the dip stick hole. After removing the oil replace the filter and fill her back up.

Does it work though ? There is 2 drain plugs, a lot of oil came outta one plug and some more outta the other. So I'm thinking the suction hose won't get it all, but I may be wrong.

Also I didn't pull the muffler, just the top springs, then slid the muffler over a 1/2".

 

Nothing on a 900 ace in those online manuals.

sure is ; under 2014 xs/xm

 

Does it work though ? There is 2 drain plugs, a lot of oil came outta one plug and some more outta the other. So I'm thinking the suction hose won't get it all, but I may be wrong.

Also I didn't pull the muffler, just the top springs, then slid the muffler over a 1/2".

I haven't done it myself yet. But I agree that pulling the drain plugs would get more oil out.

The oil was replaced on mine before picking it up, so I'm good til next year. When I do replace it I'll remove what I can with the oil sucker and pull the drain plugs to see what extra comes out.

Hopefully someone else could try this method this spring and let us know.

 

I changed mine two days ago. I raised the sled on 6x6 timbers, both skis and the track, so it was level. There is a oval 2.5" x 4" cover on the bellypan over the drain plug with two screws holding it. Remove one screw, and loosen the other and the cover swings out of the way. There seem to be two drain plugs, I don't know why. I pulled one, the short one with copper washer. The oil drained straight down out of there and into my drainpan, not messing up the sled at all. Next pull the muffler. Its easy once you have done it five times and you have to pull the muffler for chaincase access anyway, good idea to do both at season end, as owners manual suggests. The filter cartridge is down in a cavity, with a cover. Three small screws, remove cover, filter comes out kinda stuck in the cover. Examine pleats on filter for debris, save in a ziplock for any possible warrantee questions. New BRP filter fits into the cap, by now the oil remaining in the filter cavity may have drained, or turn over the engine by hand turning the primary clutch till the oil drains out of the filter cavity (mine took one revolution). Place new filter attached to cap back into place, with new o-ring, install and tighten the three screws. Replace the drain plug(s) with new sealing washer(s). Pour 3.7 US quarts of BRP 4-stroke synthetic oil into dipstick hole. Start engine, check for leaks. NOTE: the muffler may still be off and the sound level of this engine will make you **** your pants when you start it up. Alternately, set the muffler back in without putting the springs on, it will leak a little bit but mostly will quiet the engine well even without the springs. After 4 seconds the engine knock from lack of oil should stop. After 10 seconds of running, shut it down, pull muffler back out, check for leaks around drain plug and oil filter housing. Check oil, verify proper level. Reinstall muffler, reinstall little oval cover on bellypan. Total time about 30 minutes or less. If you want to do chaincase, its a good idea to do it while you have the muffler out anyway. That adds an hour, in my experience. I used a maintenance kit my dealer threw in on the deal for this oil change, so not sure what all this BRP product costs to buy. Other guys have said an oil and filter change with BRP product costs about $50. Hope this helps.

 

the amount of engine oil and 3.3 liters

 

Big thanks to all for helping me answer my questions here. Really appreciated!

 

Jimmy, the oil change kit comes with both plugs but not enough oil, did you reuse your plug or replace it ?

 

I would just use a mity vac, if you leave a few cc's of oil in the pan, it will make no difference.

 

I would not recommend just using a vacuum down the fill/dipstick tube; neither does Ski-Doo. Any dealer who says or does otherwise is incorrect and/or lazy and ripping you off. The ACE engines, both 600 and 900, are dry sump oil systems. Therefore, there is a separate tank that needs to be drained as well as the crankcase. By using a vac you only get out about half of the oil.

As mentioned, the owner's manual does a pretty good job of describing exactly what to do. Get a good exhaust spring tool and pull the muffler; it makes it way easier. Do it right and pull the drain plugs. Sled lift or table makes the job much easier.

BRP recommends new copper washers on both drain plugs. While I have new washers on hand, I have done several oil changes on both 6 and 9 ACEs and have reused the washer with no problem; just check for leaks.

 

x2. I remember this same idea was tossed around when the 1200 first came out. As stated it's a dry sump system. So good luck getting your suction hose guided through the remote oil tank, through small oil passages, and into the bottom of the oil pan period...much less to 2 locations to retrieve the oil out of what are apparently 2 separate sumps down there, given that the motor has 2 plugs. 1200 only has 1 plug and the top-suction method does not work. Certainly it won't work on a 900 with 2 plugs.

I know sucking it out was attempted by a few 1200 owners....seems to me they reported getting about 50% of capacity out of it and gave up on the idea and pulled the plug to drain the rest.

I likewise fail to see why the oil change procedure in the owners manual isn't adequate for this process?

To those who don't realize you can get free instant download of owner's manuals for every sled produced by Doo since 1971...you don't have to be an owner. Download every owner's manual you can dream of for free from this link:

http://www.ski-doo.com/owner-center/operators-guides

 

Jimmy, the oil change kit comes with both plugs but not enough oil, did you reuse your plug or replace it ?

You have me baffled with that question. My kit did not include any oil plugs. I had filter oring, another green oring, a steel compression washer, three spark plugs, and a gallon of oil. I did not use any new washers or orings, since mine were fine for re-use. I used 3.7 qts of the 4 qts they gave me. The owners manual says it takes 3.7 US qts for a change with filter.

Maybe I had the wrong maintenance kit. My kit couldve been for the 1200.

While the existance of two plugs in the drainpan seems to suggest there are two sumps, removing one plug drained virtually all the oil. I know because I put in 3.7 US qts and the stick shows it is right on full, so there couln't have been much extra left inside the engine. Possibly the plug I didn't pull has the magnet on it. I will pull both and check next time.

 

I would not recommend just using a vacuum down the fill/dipstick tube; neither does Ski-Doo. Any dealer who says or does otherwise is incorrect and/or lazy and ripping you off. The ACE engines, both 600 and 900, are dry sump oil systems. Therefore, there is a separate tank that needs to be drained as well as the crankcase. By using a vac you only get out about half of the oil.

Well if it has a dry sump, thats different. Just drain it out, pour in new oil and call it a day

 

Just speaking from my 1200 experience, it is very easy to over-fill with oil. I presume the 900 is similar. They share a procedure for checking the oil that must be followed...it's printed in owners manual and on a sticker inside the side panel. Involves FULL engine warm-up, idling for 30 seconds, then shutting down, then checking the oil...

if you deviate from this procedure and just pull the dipstick cold for example, it will often look low and you'll decide to add oil. But it likely didn't need it, and now it's overfilled....

Just something to keep in mind. Following procedure for checking the oil definitely does matter. 1200 reportedly takes 3.7 quarts but I've never been able to get much more than 3.4-ish in it after an oil change.

The 900 manual reportedly says it takes 3.5 quarts, and I would assume after an oil change you should add a bit less than that as I find with my 1200. So putting 3.7 into a 900 sounds like a slight overfill to me, though probably harmless.

 

You have me baffled with that question. My kit did not include any oil plugs. I had filter oring, another green oring, a steel compression washer, three spark plugs, and a gallon of oil. I did not use any new washers or orings, since mine were fine for re-use. I used 3.7 qts of the 4 qts they gave me. The owners manual says it takes 3.7 US qts for a change with filter.

Maybe I had the wrong maintenance kit. My kit couldve been for the 1200.

While the existance of two plugs in the drainpan seems to suggest there are two sumps, removing one plug drained virtually all the oil. I know because I put in 3.7 US qts and the stick shows it is right on full, so there couln't have been much extra left inside the engine. Possibly the plug I didn't pull has the magnet on it. I will pull both and check next time.

I think the manuel says that the ACE 900 takes 3.5 qts, and the 1200 takes 3.7 qts. I dont have the manuel with me to confirm.

 

I think the manuel says that the ACE 900 takes 3.5 qts, and the 1200 takes 3.7 qts. I dont have the manuel with me to confirm.

Manual (page 113) says 3.5qts. for the 900.

 

You have me baffled with that question. My kit did not include any oil plugs. I had filter oring, another green oring, a steel compression washer, three spark plugs, and a gallon of oil. I did not use any new washers or orings, since mine were fine for re-use. I used 3.7 qts of the 4 qts they gave me. The owners manual says it takes 3.7 US qts for a change with filter.
Maybe I had the wrong maintenance kit. My kit couldve been for the 1200.

While the existance of two plugs in the drainpan seems to suggest there are two sumps, removing one plug drained virtually all the oil. I know because I put in 3.7 US qts and the stick shows it is right on full, so there couln't have been much extra left inside the engine. Possibly the plug I didn't pull has the magnet on it. I will pull both and check next time.

They sold me an Ace 600 oil change kit with two extra quarts of oil. I can't understand why Skidoo doesn't have a kit for the 900.

 

So what kind of oil are you all using? Looks like the Mobil 1 or Castrol have the best aftermarket oil.

 

So what kind of oil are you all using? Looks like the Mobil 1 or Castrol have the best aftermarket oil.

mobil1 0w-40