Yes for some reason the 800 etec is much more reliable than the 800 ptek even though most of the architecture is very similar. Compression test on these motors doesn't tell you much, crank runout is a better indicator of engine condition.

 

2014 x gade can pick it up for 6500 that's pretty good deal I think ??

 

I have a 14 backcountry 8 and it's on its second motor. Apparently they don't last long after the oil pumps melts. The oil pump gave out on the sled after only 1600 miles. Just something to concider.

 

2014 Renegade X with 3400 miles. We got our first snow this week. Took it out of storage and took it for a short run. Still great, no problems so far.

 

Had a 2014 Gade 800ETEC with 2400 miles. It kept dying. Got it back to the trailer and off to the dealer. Dropped of the sled and we went to the pub next door while the dealer inspected the sled. It lost compression in one cylinder. Not sure of the specifics because I ordered a 2017 Enduro 800ETEC on the phone from the pub across the street. An hour later it was on the trailer. Another hour later back on the trails. 1600 miles on the Enduro 800 and not even a burp.

So why another 800 ETEC XS and not the 850......All my accessories were transferred from my 2014 ($1200 dollars worth). They gave me an excellent trade in (still had the BRP BEST warranty) and they had a great rebate on the Enduro.

To be honest my next sled will be a 1200 or 850 though.

 

They are terrible, don't do it. Get a 4 stroke.

 

Thanks might just keep my 1200 x gade for another season then go to 850 . Thanks for all the input

 

The 800 E-tec is a great engine, and I for one wouldn't be afraid to buy another one. I have had (2) 800 E-tecs and not one problem with either of them, the only reason I don't have one now is I went with the 850 E-tec this time around. If you take care of it, it should take care of you.

 

I have a 2014 Mxz 800 purchased brand new. About 3600 miles. Rock solid in performance. No issues at all. Quite frankly, having come from Yamaha (Apex guy), I was a bit worried about going back to a two stroke, but was sick of the weight penalty with a 4 stroke. Looking back now, I spent way more time maintaining the 4 stroke. Exhaust donuts, lengthy oil changes, etc. Love the 800. Doubt I will ever go back to a 4 stroke.

 

I had the same experience as Avenger38. Came off the "reliable" Apex that cost me more to maintain, and was far less fun to drive than the old Arctic Cats I had before it or the trouble free 800 renegade I have now.

 

5000 miles on my 2016 800etec and going to hammer it till she nukes

 

2015 800 Renegade X - 6,500 Miles and not a single issue with the motor.

 

If its that one out of Fenton, MI... I'd grab it up in a heartbeat.

Worth every penny

After I bought my 14 gade 800 etec I seen that one and was like DANG!... missed the x package... doh!

The one I bought has 5300 miles and runs like a top so far... havent really rode it yet tho, lol

 

The 14's are good expect to get about 10000 to 12000 miles out of the motor unless it has been really abused. :smile_old:

 

Yes, my '14 has 5,780 miles. My '16 has 12,300 miles. Just redid my '09 800r carb at 6,700 miles, bearing seized. They can go the distance, some owners luckier than others.

 

2014 here,8500 miles no problems.

 

Wtf is with these threads? If you are nervous about it don't do it. Etecs are for manly men, not scared little bishes.

 

2014 mxzx 6000 miles, no problems.

 

2014 Renegade 800R ETEC Adrenelyn. Top end blew at 8000K (mi;les). Which is kinda normal for a two stroke. I told the service guy after 6K shouldn't we check the compression? Nah, he said - you're under warranty.

 

I don't have near the miles some of you do on my 2014 but its never missed a beat.

 

The 800 E-tec is a great engine, and I for one wouldn't be afraid to buy another one. I have had (2) 800 E-tecs and not one problem with either of them, the only reason I don't have one now is I went with the 850 E-tec this time around. If you take care of it, it should take care of you.

I was reading through your post and thought it was near identical to what I have seen in certain cases. But then it followed with a clever underlined statement that the results was mostly dependent on the owners. Please believe me that I won't give you are hard time on this. I just think that you could better explain what role you believe the owners play in the longevity of their 800RE. To give you an idea where I am coming from, I have seen too many owners fight hard to address serious issues that BRP Dealers including BRP Customer Service were unable to solve. And I'm not just talking about forum topics, but sleds that I have followed closely including their maintenance schedule. And yes, all XPS oils, fogging, good fuel and no busted belts. What else are they supposed to do to take care of them?

 

Yes, my '14 has 5,780 miles. My '16 has 12,300 miles. Just redid my '09 800r carb at 6,700 miles, bearing seized. They can go the distance, some owners luckier than others.

The later 800R have a better lower end than your 09 800R. That's the reason we haven't heard much of lower-end problems with the 2010+ carbs and ETECs. But even those sleds are quickly getting older, so we will be seeing the lower end failure rate increase gradually in the coming years. And it won't be pretty. The only saving grave will be the longest Ski-Doo 800 twin era with the least lower end problems.

It is like an elastic and it is a shame because when running right the 800 ETEC is a fantastic engine. The problem that I am seeing is a competition to see how long they can last without any lower end maintenance. It is like running a car for 100,000 miles on the same oil. And once they blow we just blame it on a two stroke thing which only serves to give more credibility to owning a 4S. Zero maintenance to greased lower ends is a long term recipe for disaster. For example, if the sled reached 10,000 miles, why try to reach 15,000 miles? Because the other guy said that he could? This line of thinking would not be accepted with regular oil changes or any greased bearings in the industry. That's where I think we are tripping over.

 

^Agreed, now having spent nearly 25,000 miles on '09+ 800 Rotax motors, I do think there is a point where owners should review the demand of the motors, and probably get into them to service crank. My '16 (12,300 miles) is under warranty for two more riding years, so me and my dealer want to see where it goes. It will most likely get a new short block, gratis BRP. Another issue about throwing big money at a motor with say, 8000 miles, is the condition of the rest of the sled. Has the chassis been maintained, wearable parts replaced, bushings, bearings, clutches blah.....Some believe just let it go, buy new. I don't own one sled, so my view will be much different than those who have only one.

 

Would say that the 800 e-tec is a good engine, it has of some reason less problems with cranks than the older 800R, Power-tek, 800 H.O.

In our workshop we have seen many 800 e-tec's with over 10.000km (6200miles) and just running fine.

A decent warm-up, and let it idle a little before you shut down the engine after riding is not a bad think to do aswell..

 

^Agreed, now having spent nearly 25,000 miles on '09+ 800 Rotax motors, I do think there is a point where owners should review the demand of the motors, and probably get into them to service crank. My '16 (12,300 miles) is under warranty for two more riding years, so me and my dealer want to see where it goes. It will most likely get a new short block, gratis BRP. Another issue about throwing big money at a motor with say, 8000 miles, is the condition of the rest of the sled. Has the chassis been maintained, wearable parts replaced, bushings, bearings, clutches blah.....Some believe just let it go, buy new. I don't own one sled, so my view will be much different than those who have only one.

Trail sleds with high mileage per year tend to go much further than the same mileage over several years. If I were in your situation with a warranty I would have the same reserve to making any change. To add grease the base would need to be opened which isn't a small job and there is a risk factor involved. There is an alternative which is adding grease to the PTO end bearing by removing the seal, and MAG side through one of the stator bolts. But that takes care of only 2 bearings out of 6 that are greased and the MAG side is a blind packing, meaning we don't see what's happening when adding grease.

I am in no way suggesting that you should do either because I understand your wish to see how far it can go on the assembly line build. And I am also interested