Ok guys, not a doo guy and not familiar at all with these sleds. I have a chance to buy a 2009 1200 with 9500 NY/Maine miles for $2500. Clean, supposedly we'll maintained but no proof of that. Deal or no deal. Skid seems good and holes not all allowed out. Thoughts?
2009 1200 for $2500?
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Ok guys, not a doo guy and not familiar at all with these sleds. I have a chance to buy a 2009 1200 with 9500 NY/Maine miles for $2500. Clean, supposedly we'll maintained but no proof of that. Deal or no deal. Skid seems good and holes not all allowed out. Thoughts?
It's a TNT1200.
This will happen on any year 1200. I have a 13 renegade and the previous owner had the oil tank leak fixed under warranty I believe but has developed the problem again the 23 riding season. I got a new tank last year but didn't change it. Probably should this fall
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I have three 2014 1200 X Renegades and have never had any problems with any of them.
Sold my 2010 1200 Renegade 5 years with 18,000 miles on it. Zero issues with it. The guy I sold it to is still riding it.
Don~
Sold my 2010 1200 Renegade 5 years with 18,000 miles on it. Zero issues with it. The guy I sold it to is still riding it.
Don~
Former MXZ 1200 owner.
Decent price IMO. You will end up spending money on replacing a few worn out parts like bogie wheels, jackshaft bearing etc. Inspect it regularly if you get it.
1200 is a strong motor. My 1200 MXZ with a clutch kit and tune and the high torque made it really lurch at low speeds (it didn't have eco mode) Its not like a two stroke... The torque is all at once. It was hard to go slow on some windy trails by me because a bump would make me hit the throttle and lurch... maybe a different clutch set up would have helped. I would drag the brake while loading and unloading then overcome it with power to give smooth slow speeds without going through the side of my trailer. Lakes and long straights it was perfect for. I just sometimes wished mine had an eco mode.
I bought it with Snow Trackers already installed. It steered fine. I can't comment on stock steering, but some claim it is heavy.
It has decent fuel economy and gobs of trail power... No need to bring oil with you on the trip.
I wouldn't worry about the mileage on the engine. That should be good for a long time.
Needs scratchers for low snow conditions.
Checking the oil level is a extra procedure so read up on that. Run, wait, check.... don't overfill it.
I recommend you leave the exhaust stock.
09 is not an R motion yet. R motion would give you a better ride but newer and more expensive.
Mine had R motion.
Given the lack of snow the last couple years I think these cheap sleds will be a lot more popular.. Who wants to spend $15000 on something you can't use.
Good luck
Decent price IMO. You will end up spending money on replacing a few worn out parts like bogie wheels, jackshaft bearing etc. Inspect it regularly if you get it.
1200 is a strong motor. My 1200 MXZ with a clutch kit and tune and the high torque made it really lurch at low speeds (it didn't have eco mode) Its not like a two stroke... The torque is all at once. It was hard to go slow on some windy trails by me because a bump would make me hit the throttle and lurch... maybe a different clutch set up would have helped. I would drag the brake while loading and unloading then overcome it with power to give smooth slow speeds without going through the side of my trailer. Lakes and long straights it was perfect for. I just sometimes wished mine had an eco mode.
I bought it with Snow Trackers already installed. It steered fine. I can't comment on stock steering, but some claim it is heavy.
It has decent fuel economy and gobs of trail power... No need to bring oil with you on the trip.
I wouldn't worry about the mileage on the engine. That should be good for a long time.
Needs scratchers for low snow conditions.
Checking the oil level is a extra procedure so read up on that. Run, wait, check.... don't overfill it.
I recommend you leave the exhaust stock.
09 is not an R motion yet. R motion would give you a better ride but newer and more expensive.
Mine had R motion.
Given the lack of snow the last couple years I think these cheap sleds will be a lot more popular.. Who wants to spend $15000 on something you can't use.
Good luck
The oil tank is the only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger. Seems like a poor design. I work on my own sleds but no experience with a four stroke, can't be that much different to pull the motor I wouldn't think? Any idea time wise to pull the motor, fix and reinstall? Any idea what a dealer would charge. I would think they'd be faster than me since they've done a bunch but im sure not cheap.
I wouldn't let the oil tank possibility be the make or break factor. I have a 2010 w/ 10k on it and have never had an issue. They're a great sled. I did upgrade my rear suspension to a Rmotion last year. Now I need to try selling the original skid. They do have a lot of power right off the bat. My daughter is scared to drive it, so drives my 205hp 900 turbo instead in ECO mode. They sound great, handle decently, and are very reliable. I thought I would keep mine forever but now toying w/ the idea of selling it and getting a 900 for my daughter w/ the 3 modes so I can get my turbo back, lol.
There are youtubes from a few people and some threads in here about it. I would probably budget 8 hours for myself, I haven't done one. It's not a guarantee that every 1200 will leak, just possibility. Seems like the same basic procedure to pull the engine, just heavier. That one with 9500 miles may be good for the rest of its life. I would guess a dealer would be at least $1000.
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Took my time and replaced mine. I would not hesitate to do again and would take even less time. I did all by myself and after 3 seasons still no leaks. Check out my write up below.
https://www.dootalk.com/threads/oil-tank-replacement.1619528/
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I just finished pulling and reinstalling the engine from my 2016 MXZ-X 1200 XS. I pulled it to install the accessory air radiator kit that I cobbled together from a 600/900 radiator kit I found on marketplace. While it was out I pulled the oil tank and found that someone had been there before me and had used mass quantities of black RTV on the connector tubes. I put a new tank on just to make sure I wouldn't have to deal with it in the future. I also checked the valve lash and it was within specs at 10,000 miles. I'm 85 years old and took my time doing the job solo. I did buy the OEM engine lifting attachment since I knew that I would be working alone and that the engine weighs in the vicinity of 200 pounds. If I recall, one of the videos mentioned using a greased two by four under the engine to help slide it out of the frame when a lifting tool was unavailable. I personally would buy this machine if the track was decent. Old Hillwalker
Sorry, I wasn’t trying to deter you, just wanted you to be aware and look for the signs. If you’re handy, you can do it yourself, as others have. I have a 2016 with 28,000 km on it, no issues with it yet.
Your my hero still working on sleds at 85, especially pulling motors. I'm 65 and never used to hesitate on stuff like this, I even have a commercial lift so you can stand up and work on it like a man, and a crane, and pulling the motor isn't very appealing to me these days.
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I think for 25 hundred bucks you'd likely get a good dependable sled.
That said it does have some age to it and may need some lovin. If you're a handy guy I'd say go for it and and go through it before the snow flies.
Also, welcome to dooTalk!
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I would say could happen not "will" happen. I owned a 2011 TNT from new and kept it till 10,000 miles and it never developed the oil leak.
2009 at 9k miles? You will probably need water pump gears, oil tank o-rings, oil cooler, valve cover gasket, different t-stat, and a new clutch. The flywheel and stator will be ready to go.
It may also have a problem with "jumping out of gear". A revised spring and additional oil fixed that problem.
2009 was the first year for the 1200. Many updates for 2010.
It may also have a problem with "jumping out of gear". A revised spring and additional oil fixed that problem.
2009 was the first year for the 1200. Many updates for 2010.
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