If you want a Ford and want a reliable diesel, look for a used '03 7.3L. I've heard too many bad things about the 6.0's and can only imagine what kind of gremilins the 6.4 may have. I, personally, drive a '02 7.3L. The newer dmax's are hard to beat too.
ZDOOMAN and other diesel devotees
Any body know anything about the next generation of Power Strokes? Are they going to be trouble the first year out?
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Would you get an 06/07 w/6.0 or wait for the early release 08 with the 6.4????
Taken From A FORD press release;
All-new 6.4-liter Power Stroke ® Diesel is cleaner, quieter and more powerful
A more powerful 6.4-liter Power Stroke ® Diesel joins a powertrain lineup that already includes the segment's most powerful gasoline engine, the 362-horsepower 6.8-liter V-10 Triton.
Annual U.S. diesel truck registrations have increased to more than 500,000 a year from about 400,000 in 2001. Ford has long been the industry leader, selling 1.3 million diesel-powered F-Series pickups in the United States since 2001 alone. Ford sells more diesel-powered pickup trucks annually than Chevrolet and Dodge combined. Nearly three-quarters of all Ford Super Duty trucks sold are diesel-powered.
The new engine benefits from an innovative development process designed to more accurately reflect how Super Duty customers use their vehicles every day. The team began by collecting real-world data from working Super Duty commercial customers, tracking their daily duty cycles. That data was used to develop durability tests that more closely represented real-world use. To better assure durability, the tests were conducted using the most extreme and abusive conditions and run to five-times the life cycle that the hardest-working truck would ever experience.
"By the time we launch this vehicle," said Dan Davidson, Powertrain supervisor, "the engine will have seen more than 10 million equivalent miles of testing both on the dyno and in test vehicles."
The 6.4-liter Power Stroke ® Diesel delivers 350 horsepower at 3,000 rpm and 650 lb.-ft. of torque starting at 2,000 rpm and utilizes Ford Clean Diesel Technology, which includes, among other features, a high-pressure, common rail fuel system, Piezo-electric fuel injectors and an advanced diesel particulate filter system to deliver strong performance while reducing particulate output by more than 90 percent and posting emissions numbers on par with gasoline engines.
High-tech, series sequential turbochargers provide improved response and better low-end performance. The unique system uses a small, electronically controlled, smart remote variable geometry turbocharger that comes on at low rpm to provide extra boost at take-off. As rpms increase, the larger fixed turbo joins the smaller turbo to boost power through the middle of the torque curve. As optimum speed is reached, the larger turbo takes over. Tests have shown zero-to-60 times of more than a second faster than the outgoing 6.0-liter.
Transmission choices include a six-speed manual with overdrive or a TorqShift™ five-speed automatic. The powertrains use a new unique mounting system that better isolates the powertrain and reduces vibration. Both two- and four-wheel-drive models will be available on the 2008 Super Duty.
Would you get an 06/07 w/6.0 or wait for the early release 08 with the 6.4????
Taken From A FORD press release;
All-new 6.4-liter Power Stroke ® Diesel is cleaner, quieter and more powerful
A more powerful 6.4-liter Power Stroke ® Diesel joins a powertrain lineup that already includes the segment's most powerful gasoline engine, the 362-horsepower 6.8-liter V-10 Triton.
Annual U.S. diesel truck registrations have increased to more than 500,000 a year from about 400,000 in 2001. Ford has long been the industry leader, selling 1.3 million diesel-powered F-Series pickups in the United States since 2001 alone. Ford sells more diesel-powered pickup trucks annually than Chevrolet and Dodge combined. Nearly three-quarters of all Ford Super Duty trucks sold are diesel-powered.
The new engine benefits from an innovative development process designed to more accurately reflect how Super Duty customers use their vehicles every day. The team began by collecting real-world data from working Super Duty commercial customers, tracking their daily duty cycles. That data was used to develop durability tests that more closely represented real-world use. To better assure durability, the tests were conducted using the most extreme and abusive conditions and run to five-times the life cycle that the hardest-working truck would ever experience.
"By the time we launch this vehicle," said Dan Davidson, Powertrain supervisor, "the engine will have seen more than 10 million equivalent miles of testing both on the dyno and in test vehicles."
The 6.4-liter Power Stroke ® Diesel delivers 350 horsepower at 3,000 rpm and 650 lb.-ft. of torque starting at 2,000 rpm and utilizes Ford Clean Diesel Technology, which includes, among other features, a high-pressure, common rail fuel system, Piezo-electric fuel injectors and an advanced diesel particulate filter system to deliver strong performance while reducing particulate output by more than 90 percent and posting emissions numbers on par with gasoline engines.
High-tech, series sequential turbochargers provide improved response and better low-end performance. The unique system uses a small, electronically controlled, smart remote variable geometry turbocharger that comes on at low rpm to provide extra boost at take-off. As rpms increase, the larger fixed turbo joins the smaller turbo to boost power through the middle of the torque curve. As optimum speed is reached, the larger turbo takes over. Tests have shown zero-to-60 times of more than a second faster than the outgoing 6.0-liter.
Transmission choices include a six-speed manual with overdrive or a TorqShift™ five-speed automatic. The powertrains use a new unique mounting system that better isolates the powertrain and reduces vibration. Both two- and four-wheel-drive models will be available on the 2008 Super Duty.
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Here is the link to the entire article. They are comming out with F-450 p/u's from the factory now too. That'd come in handy for hauling around a 8-10 place enclosed!
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It is rated to tow 12 tons.Big Dog D said:Here is the link to the entire article. They are comming out with F-450 p/u's from the factory now too. That'd come in handy for hauling around a 8-10 place enclosed!![]()
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Well......Big Dog D said:
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Never say never. I've heard a lot of buzz about Chrysler dropping Cummins and going with AMG diesel power in their trucks real soon.zdooman said:
I've also heard talk about a BIG change at Ford in their diesels (and no it's not the 6.4l). We've been running 08 SD axles for a few weeks now. A few hundred so far. KY Truck is suppose to start building them in late Nov.
Also, A bigger rear axle (11.5" current one is 10.5") is in the works for the SD's. How much stronger does it need to be? We already make the best and strongest axles on the market,
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If Chrysler was going to switch to anything I would think it would be Mercedes. I think I also heard that Ford is locked into a long term deal with Navstar in developing this new engine. The other thing that I would be skeptical about Ford and Navstar parting ways is that don't they make the 4700' & the F-6&7 series in the same plant?04440X39 said:Never say never. I've heard a lot of buzz about Chrysler dropping Cummins and going with AMG diesel power in their trucks real soon.zdooman said:
I've also heard talk about a BIG change at Ford in their diesels (and no it's not the 6.4l). We've been running 08 SD axles for a few weeks now. A few hundred so far. KY Truck is suppose to start building them in late Nov.
Also, A bigger rear axle (11.5" current one is 10.5") is in the works for the SD's. How much stronger does it need to be? We already make the best and strongest axles on the market,so that tells me there is going to be some serious torque under the hood some time in the near future.![]()
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AMG is MercedesBig Dog D said:
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