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Why didn't skidoo also offer the 700 motor in the rev? I ended up buying a 500ss because my home insurance won't cover a sled over 700 cc. So what gives?
 

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I don't know why they do not offer a 700. seems like it would sell. we just ride 440x sleds cheaper insurance and an awesome cross country sled. joev
 

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7 was nevered offered in the Rev, never intended to be in it. Rev and Fcat came out in the same year, 03, no one new what the Fcat would offer then. Doo dropped the 7 for one simple reason - the 600ho, with the same case as the 700, was almost as strong on top, within 3-5%. And cheaper. The 700 is much stronger in the midrange, at least mine were, and I've had 600, 600ho's, 800's, and 800ho's in addition to the 700's. The 700's were sweet, just got squeezed out, not offering enough over the 600ho. Overall, the 700 was my all around favorite S3 to date. Do this - get a used carbed 600ho rev, drop some 700 or 740 pistons in it, clutch it, and you'll be very happy. You'll be kicking 600ho's all day long.
 

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doo what i do............call around for insurance........find a company that has good sled ins, cheap............

then write all your ins with that company

American family is who i use.........no limits on sleds cc.........$250 a year for full coverage on my 800
 

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Marketing, if doo sold 700's in a Rev chassis then doo would have there hands tied with trying to push out 800's thats why cat did not push an 800 into production, this is what a skidoo rep claimed last yr.
Most of the doo 700's could run easily with the 800's if they were on. some were patchy with performance, my old boss i used to paint for every summer bought an 02 700 bone stock just puts in in the garage at the end of every winter and greases it up, its the fastest 700 ive ever seen, he can beat whatever he lines up against, these sleds are amazing.
Eventually i see a 700 coming back out again but not anytime soon, now doo has there hands full competing with the SS and the 600 H.O, my dealer sold more SS's this yr than any other sled in the past.
 

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I would prefer them to stick with fewer engine choices and put the extra $ into making them top of class in power and reliability.
 

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500SS = replaced old 600
600HO = replaced old 700
800HO = replaced old 800

Any questions?
 

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skidoo said:
500SS = replaced old 600
600HO = replaced old 700
800HO = replaced old 800

Any questions?
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But do you truely believe that the 600ho can push as hard as the 700. I personally don't think that they can. I had a 700 before my 600ho and I really don't think that it is that close to the 7. My 600ho runs good, but that is what it is a 600 not a 700. I think that it is going to be a little bit until we see them again. The next sled that I buy is prolly going to be one of the 800. But we will wait and see what they give to us.....

Ryan
 

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skidoo said:
500SS = replaced old 600
600HO = replaced old 700
800HO = replaced old 800

Any questions?
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You are correct however, while the 500SS is the old 600, the 600HO replaced the 700 on paper only.
 

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personal results from 2004

2002 renegade 700 vs. 2003 renegade 600ho

- both sleds stock; mileage approx 1000 each sled; both maintained
- sleds were pretty much dead even across lake @ 1/8; 1/4 mile; and beyond with 2" snow on lake
- rider weight even & also swapped riders/sleds = same results

The 700 seamed faster in all conditions trails/lake; but when we lined them up they were even time after time. The 700 has more torque and in
our case it seamed to give the impression that it was faster.
 

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griggm said:
personal results from 2004

2002 renegade 700 vs. 2003 renegade 600ho

- both sleds stock; mileage approx 1000 each sled; both maintained
- sleds were pretty much dead even across lake @ 1/8; 1/4 mile; and beyond with 2" snow on lake
- rider weight even & also swapped riders/sleds = same results

The 700 seamed faster in all conditions trails/lake; but when we lined them up they were even time after time. The 700 has more torque and in
our case it seamed to give the impression that it was faster.

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The zx chassis is a faster sled on the flat, but the rev is superior on the bumps/corners. the 2002 & older sleds feel faster becasue they are not as smooth & they sit lower to the ground.

If you go 100mph in a little car and in a big truck, you feel faster in the car. (don't ask why, cus i can't explain)

i do feel that the 600ho is just as fast as the old 700's were/are.
 

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Both my brothers have 02 summit 700's.

One 700 is stock and I have no problem beating him for the mark on the hill.

The other 700 has a MBRP can, and we are about the same. Some times he whens the mark and sometimes I when the mark.

My sled is an 05 summit 600HO with a Dyno Port can.

My opinion, the 700 was great back in the day.
 

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700 cc is not acceptable among many companies, in fact high performance sleds with less displacement are not acceptable to many companies.

The real key can be a clean driving and loss record with your agent calling the company underwriter for special consideration. This is based on my 35 yrs as an agent representing independant companies.
 

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I hope that rumor of a 7-750 sdi is true. I would more likely buy a 700 than a 800. I don't see a need for a 800-900-1000. I see that upper cc market being grouped into one or two motors. have the trail rider 600ho and 7-750 motor and then the big bore 8-900 and 1000. I see the 800cc market being fased into bigger cc's than the 6-700cc market being fased away.
 

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Or buy a 440 and put a 700 in it, I pay $230 full coverage, 2 years ago My 03 rev 800 was $695 year . 2 weeks ago lined up my buddies 05 600 SDI and I just walked right past him...right from the get go...So I dont think the 600's are as strong as the 7's.
 

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CATEATER_REV said:
skidoo said:
500SS = replaced old 600
600HO = replaced old 700
800HO = replaced old 800

Any questions?
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But do you truely believe that the 600ho can push as hard as the 700. I personally don't think that they can. I had a 700 before my 600ho and I really don't think that it is that close to the 7. My 600ho runs good, but that is what it is a 600 not a 700. I think that it is going to be a little bit until we see them again. The next sled that I buy is prolly going to be one of the 800. But we will wait and see what they give to us.....

Ryan
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Not sure but my 2000 700 supposedly had about 112HP and my 2000 600 was supposedly around 105. Of course I never dynoed or anything. So how does that compare to now?
 

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I posted a Q on this a couple weeks ago but didn't get much feedback - but glad to see it's getting answered now.

I have an 01 700 with a cudney clutch kit and the midrange is fantastic - my sense is that a 600 HO Rev is not going to touch my 700.

That's my main hesitation with upgrading to a newer sled (Rev) - I don't really want/need the 800, but I'm not sold on the 600 HO being equal to the 700.
 

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[quote name='JP700' date='Feb 5 2006, 08:04 AM']
I posted a Q on this a couple weeks ago but didn't get much feedback - but glad to see it's getting answered now.

I have an 01 700 with a cudney clutch kit and the midrange is fantastic - my sense is that a 600 HO Rev is not going to touch my 700.

That's my main hesitation with upgrading to a newer sled (Rev) - I don't really want/need the 800, but I'm not sold on the 600 HO being equal to the 700.
put a clutch kit on the 600HO, and I am pretty sure it will spank your 700. Its approx 15HP difference. Stock machines (both similar, ie/ both MZX adrenalines, or gades, not gade vs adr. or summit vs adr) both setup same the 600HO should win anyways.
 

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the 600 H.O is a fast sled in respect but nothing comparing to the 700 the 700 is around 130H.P, ive seen it happen many times ive seen stock 700's take clutched studded and piped 600 H.O's from bottom to top its not gonna happen, some 700's are hit and miss in the H.p department which require alittle handwork, but comparing sled to sled in ideal setups its not even a ?.
 
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