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Hi,

I'm finally updating the ol' RT, snow checking a Summit X T3 174 (yellow, with e-start).

1) Anybody use a lithium battery, do they work well? It will be ridden in Sicamous/Revy (mountain) areas. I hope that it being only a 2 cylinder, 2 stroke, in warm temps (compared to my home in Sask) a lithium should be fine to start it, but I want to get opinions from those that use them.

2) Any preference for a lightweight can? I have a TSS now which is a little loud, so one that is no noisier than that can, preferably a little quieter. I think the dealer likes MBR, but I see HPS and SLP mentioned a lot in older threads. Other than "stock", what cans have a little louder/nicer sound (I like to hear the engine when climbing a hill), save weight, but don't loose HP? Suggestions?

3) Do I need to buy scratchers, or does the stock X come with rail mounted scratchers (I doubt it, but somebody said they come with)?

4) I don't usually ride more than 60 miles/ 100km a day, do you think I will need the extra fuel can with this 800? I rarely used the can with the 1000, and usually ended up just hauling it back down the trail. I'm thinking of skipping the jerrycan,and adding it later if I start running low (I stash some fuel line in the sled for such an occasion).

5) Anybody use plastic film (like hood protector film to prevent stone chips) over the side panels to help keep them clean and make them easier to clean, as I hear the yellow gets dirty on the exhaust side?

Any other items you like (I'm grabbing a belly panel protector)?

Thanks for your thoughts,

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1)I have no experience with lithium batteries other than knowing they are lighter. Most batteries will not start the sled in -30 though so you're probably safe in Revy, however I'd get the recoil just in case.
2) I've had Mbrp before and am running a Jaws race can on my 174.
The MBRP can is nice and only get loud after the raves open up(7200ish RPM). The jaws is significantly louder at full throttle. I haven't ridden with the jaws in the mountains so I can't say if it's ear splitting. If it is, it's coming off.
Remember if you're in the mountains, probably a good idea if the sled is louder than quiet, especially if you're trying to find your friends. If you trail ride a lot, the Mbrp is probably your better choice.
3) stock scratchers are fine but can break. You might want to put a set or 2 of wheels in the middle of the skid.
4) I've never used my jerry can so unless you carry spare fuel for others, don't bother.
5) sled will get dirty on the brake side as well due to brake dust coming out of the guard.
Mr Clean magic eraser is your friend.

I'd put a set of rail protectors on from the ski doo accessory catalog.

Get a clutch kit. Dynamo Joe, Rooster or big John at SHR. Can't go wrong with any of those.



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My summer mod list for my T3 163
1. New tube running boards, the stock boards are good in fluffy snow but suck in heavy snow
2 TSS Y pipe, pipe & can. Rode a Doo with that set up. A little peper and I liked the sound
3. New bars, something straight.
4 not sure yet have to see how it goes. Lol.
And yes the stock scratchers suck.


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raptor shocks are a good chunk of money but well worth it.. buddy has a t3 with them you can ride the whoops and not feel one bite you in the b*lls :madnote:
 

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GnR braces, extreme skid plate, SLP or HPS can (I run the SLP was a bit less money), Ice storm scratchers. Gerry can is rarely needed but good to have on those stupid deep days where you're pinned all day. The stock shocks are sufficient but not good by any means. I just bought raptors but haven't had a chance to try them out yet.
 

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grip and rip braces and RPM composites ski plate (all others suck) are must haves. Then send X package shocks out and have them revalved if your worried about the shocks but don't want to pay big money. The extra gas is something I always have and I love the mountain addition set up.
 

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Send your shocks to Teton performance he has a great revalve for your shocks. I was going to get new shocks for my t3 163. I talked to Bob and try his set-up first. The sled had 250 miles on it and the oil was disgusting. After the revalve the shocks were night and day over my brothers
 

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I agree with Bnorth, T-3 is setup real nice stock. Braces, beefier front bumper, doo extreme skid plate, handle bar riser to get bars to whatever your prefered height is and gas and go. Stock shocks perform well I think, but dont last long. I personally stuck to much $ into my T-3 before I rode it first. So learn from me and ride it first before messing with shocks and clutching... then go from there
 

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HPS can, blowhole, grip and rip braces, oil lite bushings and a skid plate.
 
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My summer mod list for my T3 163
1. New tube running boards, the stock boards are good in fluffy snow but suck in heavy snow
2 TSS Y pipe, pipe & can. Rode a Doo with that set up. A little peper and I liked the sound
3. New bars, something straight.
4 not sure yet have to see how it goes. Lol.
And yes the stock scratchers suck.

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just remembered #4 front shocks, fox
# 5 that is already done toms emotion and fox shocks in the skid. Man I wish Doo would sell it with quality shocks from the floor

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Remember if you're in the mountains, probably a good idea if the sled is louder than quiet, especially if you're trying to find your friends. If you trail ride a lot, the Mbrp is probably your better choice.
...and I disagree 100%. We are batteling to keep areas open for motorized use. The #1 complaint against sleders? Noise! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE consider using the stock can, or one thats QUIET! A radio works to find out where you buddy is at. Noise does NO GOOD for keeping areas open!

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I've ordered a 2016 T3 Yellow 154 X

GGB trail can
Black skid
Grip n rip
Oil lite
DJ clutch kit and clickers
Skinz headlight delete.
2 sets of wheels.
Possible lime nine wrap
Some parts I've taken off my freeride.
 

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Remember if you're in the mountains, probably a good idea if the sled is louder than quiet, especially if you're trying to find your friends. If you trail ride a lot, the Mbrp is probably your better choice.

...and I disagree 100%. We are batteling to keep areas open for motorized use. The #1 complaint against sleders? Noise! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE consider using the stock can, or one thats QUIET! A radio works to find out where you buddy is at. Noise does NO GOOD for keeping areas open!
Ace
man where do u people live. I have straight pipes on my bike, my car. And a can on my sled. Ran turbo the last 3 years. This is a mountain form. Not a riding in farmers field form

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BRAAAPPPPPPPPPP! Nothing better than a GGB mountain can on a crisp morning I would never find my buds if we weren't running cans you separate and end up following tracks for an hour trying to find them and safety of hearing them is number 1
 

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I live in WA, but sled in ID and BC as well. I just think it's good stewardship to keep the sleds quiet. I also put in a lot of hours on different committees about land use. Trust me when I tell you the BEST thing we sledders can do to keep our riding areas open is to keep the noise down....

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Biggest upgrades we seen this year were going to eight tooth drivers, and a better skid... Bakers racer edge stood out.. And if you have a bit more coin... Turbo it
 

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Thanks for all the comments.

1) E-Start - LOL, yes, I see the electric start as a step in the wrong direction when working towards reducing sled weight on a mountain machine. Point taken. I too have always turned my nose up at electric start, because of the added weight and said "that's for wimps, I don't need that" (when I was younger). Now that I'll be 50 and (and a rather lazy 50), I want to give e-start a try. I thought with a lighter battery that it would not be that much of a weight penalty and I could save my energy for riding, and add to a more enjoyable ride. Plus my RT ate two recoil starters over its 10 years I had it (the plastic house broke by the axle(?), but that was all that failed on the RT, it was very reliable IMHO). Plus, I find it a PITA to climb out of a tree well and claw my way back on the sled just to get it started and blipped out of a hole. So, yeah, I want to try e-start and I do realize that I have goals that conflict with each other (which is often the case :) ).

2) Shocks - Honestly, I don't pay much attention to my shocks. That one item I really do ignore, out of ignorance mostly. I guess even on a mountain sled I should pay more attention to them. I'll try it stock, and read more into what other are finding as far as faults or improvements. For me in the past, as long as it feels fine going down the trail, that's fine, as in the powder I don't seem to care or notice any changes. I don't do any big drops or jumps,,, not on purpose anyway.

3) Blow hole - I had to Google that product. Interesting idea, I kind of like the idea of using a fan to suck out the heat, if it helps belts last longer. I had a bit of sticker shock though, but it deserves a better look. I have always removed the plastic around the clutches and took a whole saw to the shield and then belts seemed to last a long time. Gone are the days only getting a 2 or 3 days on a belt. This fan may work better, and I'll have a high performance goggle defroster apparently.

4) Can - I don't want to open up the can debate, I don't like loud at idle or cruise speed, but I do like to hear how the engine is pulling on a hill, and I do find myself using sound to find sleds in our group (or any group will do when lost). PS, I use Back Country Navigator on my Android too, cool app if you are interested in one for your phone. And in the trees it seems the sound is killed pretty quick any ways (surprisingly quick!). I used FSR radios fora while, and found them to be of little value and don't pack them any more, maybe the new ones are better, like the Rino with GPS location sharing if that is still made. I want the sled to have good manners at idle and cruise, but be pretty loud at W.O.T.. That way it's quiet when in parking lot and loading/unloading in the city, but if I'm playing on a big hill away from sensitive ears, I want to hear it. Looking at HPS or MBRP (lower cost than HPS), trail can. That should be somewhere in the middle, hopefully the trail can is loud enough to maintain the "fun factor" (AKA "brapp") when at W.O.T.

5) Turbo - and some of the other more extensive or extreme mods are not on the radar now. I'm looking for a sled update, a (mostly) stock, lighter, and reliable replacement to the RT, that will be easier to put 50 or 60 miles on it a day, and a little easier to dig out. I don't think I want to bother with a turbo, it will just take me to places I don't belong. I don't spend a lot of time high marking or riding in spring snow conditions, I like the really deep snow days and surfing around. I'll leave the turbos to others who will use it.

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...and I disagree 100%. We are batteling to keep areas open for motorized use. The #1 complaint against sleders? Noise! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE consider using the stock can, or one thats QUIET! A radio works to find out where you buddy is at. Noise does NO GOOD for keeping areas open!

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So True, we are our own worse enemy, sound rules are coming kids, just like out east, people who complain about areas closing, only have to look at their can and say hmmm.

Keep the stock can-save money, use an earthx battery-lighter by 11.5 pounds and works in every conditions, lithiums do go to sleep so sometimes you need to hold the button down for 8 seconds, take the cover off and hit the start again and it will start right up, no need for rope-as I have never needed it, e-starts work well now. yes not he jerry if you like to ride deep, just stash it or empty it in when you have ridden a bit, just ride and go!
 
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