Carnage and I rode Friday all day till about 7PM or so. Started in Redfield and went up to Carthage and then looped back down and around on the east side of the hill. Traffic was very high trails were good in the AM with the best snow south. Redfield was good but with all the sleds it got beat up F A S T. Every lot was stuffed full of trucks. 3' rollers in every corner, ice in most corners, big big moguls in most places. Saw 2 groomers and neither one had the drag or the blade down. We stayed at the Portly Angler (nice place for $58 a night) and decided on Sat AM to NOT ride the hill. We saw more trucks and trailers rolling in all night and morning and decided to head down to Tully. Rode from the Mountainview and did about 50 miles. Not nearly as much snow, but smooth, flat trails, nice little bumps in the woods and lots of fields to play in. Did some drift busting and a little carving, had a great day. I have some vids and pics that I'll post later.