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Did some figuring from the website below

Number of registered sleds in each state or province vs. miles of groomed trail in each state or province.

Ontario - (175,000 registered sleds / 27,000 miles of trail) = 6.48 sleds per mile.
Quebec = 7.56 sleds per mile.
Wisconsin = 8.8 sleds per mile
Minnesota = 13.63 sleds per mile
NY State = 15.60 sleds per mile
Michigan = 58.64 sleds per mile (holy!)

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interesting eh?

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That's wrong.

Add together all of the registered sleds in NY, MA, NH, NJ, CT, OH, and PA. Then, use that number in place of NY alone. Then you'll have a more accurate reading of sleds per mile in NY state.



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Good Point...I actually thought of that too. Same with Michigan.....Ohio, Indiana, etc...they all jam up to Mich when the sno-flies.

Out of simplicity.....the calc is interesting.

When you stop for a p!$$ beside the trial in Michigan you better be pointing downwind when all the sleds come racing by!

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Just 236 total snowmobile registrations in the North West Territory?? And, half of those owners are right here!!
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I think those numbers are out of date...I believe I was told there are over 2500 sleds registered in Yellowknife (the only place in the NWT where you have to register sleds, I think).
Registered just means the ones that are legally allowed to ride in city limits.

Lots of people don't bother and take their chances on getting stopped.

I seem to recall that the recent estimate was over 5000 snowmobiles in and around Yellowknife, but it could be higher than that.

But we have countless miles of open wilderness to ride in...so I have no idea of how to do the math.

For example, on Sunday we rode 50 miles on lakes and trails and only saw 3 other sleds all afternoon.

Then one night we can be out for a short run of 25 miles and we see 8 sleds...

Still not a lot, sometimes you get so used to not seeing anyone out there it gives you a start when BM comes racing around a corner at 50mph in the middle of nowhere !

 

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mattie said:
Did some figuring from the website below

Number of registered sleds in each state or province vs. miles of groomed trail in each state or province.

Ontario - (175,000 registered sleds / 27,000 miles of trail) = 6.48 sleds per mile.
Quebec = 7.56 sleds per mile.
Wisconsin = 8.8 sleds per mile
Minnesota = 13.63 sleds per mile
NY State = 15.60 sleds per mile
Michigan = 58.64 sleds per mile (holy!)

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thanks for stating the obvious... for us on the trail anyway...


explains allot doesnt it?

now do the death rates for me - how safe are we with that many sleds vs deaths?
 

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tughillterror said:
That's wrong.

Add together all of the registered sleds in NY, MA, NH, NJ, CT, OH, and PA. Then, use that number in place of NY alone. Then you'll have a more accurate reading of sleds per mile in NY state.



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I thought I read on another thread that even out of staters have to register to ride in NY, so that number must include most of the sleds from those states, but the MI number would be higher because MI doesn't make out of staters register.
It all depends on where and when you ride. I don't think it's possible for there to be more traffic than you see at gaylord or newberry on a busy saturday. Sometimes if you pull off the trail for a break you might have to wait for 100+ sleds to pass before you can pull back on the trail.
We rode a 180 mile loop in the LP on Sunday, and only saw about 30 or 40 sleds, most of them at gas stations and bars. We probably saw less than 2 dozen sleds actually riding. We also didn't ride in 5' of powder like they have up north.

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explains allot doesnt it?

now do the death rates for me - how safe are we with that many sleds vs deaths?
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I'd like to see those numbers too. It's hard to find those stats (registrations, deaths, injuries, miles of trails, estimated miles ridden) for all the states/provinces all on one place. If anyone has a good source for those numbers I'd be interested to see it.
 

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rampage said:
tughillterror said:
That's wrong.

Add together all of the registered sleds in NY, MA, NH, NJ, CT, OH, and PA. Then, use that number in place of NY alone. Then you'll have a more accurate reading of sleds per mile in NY state.



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I thought I read on another thread that even out of staters have to register to ride in NY, so that number must include most of the sleds from those states.
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good point - even guys from here register there as well so some counts are doubled.
 

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now do the death rates for me - how safe are we with that many sleds vs deaths?
check out my previous post NYS Deaths

it is approx 2.83 accidents per 1000 sleds registered

and it is approx 1 death in 9,000 registrations! Seems pretty safe to me...
 

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So the math for Yellowknife is 5000 plus sleds and 0 miles of groomed trails...now how the hell do you do that division by zero stuff again!

Hey... maybe Poo_Sucks knows that...he's 15 and SHOULD be in grade 10 or something like that.

Poooooo???? What's 5000/0 = ????
 

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that would be 5000 sleds with no miles...

No that cant be right....

for Yellowknife anyway..... maybe New York but not up there.
 

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So the math for Yellowknife is 5000 plus sleds and 0 miles of groomed trails...now how the hell do you do that division by zero stuff again!

Hey... maybe Poo_Sucks knows that...he's 15 and SHOULD be in grade 10 or something like that.

Poooooo???? What's 5000/0 = ????
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tughillterror said:
That's wrong.

Add together all of the registered sleds in NY, MA, NH, NJ, CT, OH, and PA. Then, use that number in place of NY alone. Then you'll have a more accurate reading of sleds per mile in NY state.



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Exactly..
 

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I thought I read on another thread that even out of staters have to register to ride in NY
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You're right, that makes sense. I was thinking of only NY residents, but outta staters do have to register in NY to ride legally.
 

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OK...hears the math for Yellowknife. I gave up on the 5000 sleds/0 miles of groomed trails so here we go.

We have 1,322,900 sq miles in the NWT of which we can skidoo on everyone of them except for about 1/2 of main street in Yellowknife. As the average trail is 5' wide up here.

1322900 sq miles = 36880335360000 sq ft / 5 = 7376067072000 feet of trails / 5280 = 1,396,982,400 miles of possible trails (Ungroomed) / 5000 sleds = 279,396 miles of trails per sled OR .0000035 sleds per mile!
 

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OK...hears the math for Yellowknife. I gave up on the 5000 sleds/0 miles of groomed trails so here we go.

We have 1,322,900 sq miles in the NWT of which we can skidoo on everyone of them except for about 1/2 of main street in Yellowknife. As the average trail is 5' wide up here.

1322900 sq miles = 36880335360000 sq ft / 5 = 7376067072000 feet of trails / 5280 = 1,396,982,400 miles of possible trails (Ungroomed) / 5000 sleds = 279,396 miles of trails per sled OR .0000035 sleds per mile!
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Holy hell.
 

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QUOTE(FrozenGade @ Feb 28 2006, 06:31 PM)
OK...hears the math for Yellowknife. I gave up on the 5000 sleds/0 miles of groomed trails so here we go.

We have 1,322,900 sq miles in the NWT of which we can skidoo on everyone of them except for about 1/2 of main street in Yellowknife. As the average trail is 5' wide up here.

1322900 sq miles = 36880335360000 sq ft / 5 = 7376067072000 feet of trails / 5280 = 1,396,982,400 miles of possible trails (Ungroomed) / 5000 sleds = 279,396 miles of trails per sled OR .0000035 sleds per mile!

Holy hell.
Yup...and we can still get 31 sleds together for a club ride at -28C.

Can you say...Sled Crazy!
 

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FrozenGade said:
QUOTE(FrozenGade @ Feb 28 2006, 06:31 PM)
OK...hears the math for Yellowknife. I gave up on the 5000 sleds/0 miles of groomed trails so here we go.

We have 1,322,900 sq miles in the NWT of which we can skidoo on everyone of them except for about 1/2 of main street in Yellowknife. As the average trail is 5' wide up here.

1322900 sq miles = 36880335360000 sq ft / 5 = 7376067072000 feet of trails / 5280 = 1,396,982,400 miles of possible trails (Ungroomed) / 5000 sleds = 279,396 miles of trails per sled OR .0000035 sleds per mile!

Holy hell.
Yup...and we can still get 31 sleds together for a club ride at -28C.

Can you say...Sled Crazy!

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I guess that is why you can go for a 5 hour ride and only ever see 2 sleds!!
 
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