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Need your help again my DooTalk friends.

I am noticing when I am going down our very humpy humpy (2'x3') moguls and also around corners that my a$$ end seems to be jumping around quite a bit. Most of the time I am going at a pretty good clip for our trail conditions anyways.

Yesterday we were out on the back trails and I noticed with all the fresh snow it wasn't doing it. Mind you I was going a whole lot slower as I only had an inch to spare on both sides of my skies. Only hit 4 trees.

My suspension is on the lowest setting and I was wondering if I cranked it up a notch or 2 if that would help??

I don't know if maybe it is because the sled is so light......maybe I don't have enough weight to hold the back end down??

I do most of my trail riding standing so all the weight is in the front.

Thanks for your help......I appreciate it!!
 

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Is the track slipping from side to side or bouncing up and down?
 

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Party Chief said:
Is the track slipping from side to side or bouncing up and down?
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I don't really know.........I just don't seem to have any traction on the back end. I guess it is bouncing from side to side.
 

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If your sled is un studded,then i would gues its a combo of both slipping side to side and bouncing, alot of people have that problem and solve it by putting a few studs ,i know it has worked for me , just a few down the middle and it is all gone, if the sled darts get rid of some of the darting and you will see your rear end go straighter also.
 

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If your sled is un studded,then i would gues its a combo of both slipping side to side and bouncing, alot of people have that problem and solve it by putting a few studs ,i know it has worked for me , just a few down the middle and it is all gone, if the sled darts get rid of some of the darting and you will see your rear end go straighter also.
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Did my sled not come with studs?? sorry don't know much about the mechanics?
 

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1) have papa or ur dealer drop a hole in the limeter strap, this take weight off the front skis, moves weight to the back for traction.

2) tighten the front spring a lil bit to take a lil more weight off the front, which will move weight to the back for a lil more traction.

mmm, i think thats about it, ooo, then if u want wheelies take the rubber stopper off from the back of the coupling blocks and the skis will never touch the ground!


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Just an observation, not a jab, but after ONE THOUSAND AND TWENTY THREE POSTS/1023 one would think they'd have SOME information regarding their own snowmobile, but who the F am I?

I did not turn down my torsion springs after I had turned them all the way stiff/position 4 after riding two-up and this is what I noticed if it might help you.

The ride on the smaller bumps was nice, I did notice the rear suspension was very smooth while the torsion springs were all the way up to 4 but on the bigger bumps the rear end rebounded real quick. I turned my torsions back down to 2 and all was well again, I had better traction and I was using all of my suspension stroke and just lightly bottoming on only the biggest of hits.

It could be that your rear shocks are worn and all the rebound in the shock/oil/gas is all gone and your shocks are rebounding too fast.

I know after I rode my buddies 05 with 500 miles as compared to my 3,500+mile 04, his rear suspension was way better than mine so I bought some used rebuildable X-Shocks and had them re-oiled and re-charged and my rear end has been great ever since although I'll probably get them redone again for this next winter, this one is over, boo-hoo.

I hope this helps.
 

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Just an observation, not a jab, but after ONE THOUSAND AND TWENTY THREE POSTS/1023 one would think they'd have SOME information regarding their own snowmobile, but who the F am I?

I did not turn down my torsion springs after I had turned them all the way stiff/position 4 after riding two-up and this is what I noticed if it might help you.

The ride on the smaller bumps was nice, I did notice the rear suspension was very smooth while the torsion springs were all the way up to 4 but on the bigger bumps the rear end rebounded real quick. I turned my torsions back down to 2 and all was well again, I had better traction and I was using all of my suspension stroke and just lightly bottoming on only the biggest of hits.

It could be that your rear shocks are worn and all the rebound in the shock/oil/gas is all gone and your shocks are rebounding too fast.

I know after I rode my buddies 05 with 500 miles as compared to my 3,500+mile 04, his rear suspension was way better than mine so I bought some used rebuildable X-Shocks and had them re-oiled and re-charged and my rear end has been great ever since although I'll probably get them redone again for this next winter, this one is over, boo-hoo.

I hope this helps.
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This is just a response not in anger either...........

I bought a brand new sled so I would not have to worry about the mechanics of it.
99% of my posts are in the general forum.....to have fun!! to laugh!!! not to become a sled mechanic!!! This is what I rely on my DooTalk friends for to answer a question that I might have about my sled and the way it runs.

I don't have time to learn how to fix a sled..........my days are spent driving a bus in the early hours of the morning.......next job trying to make the death of a loved one a little easier on the family, preparing bodies for burial, singing a still born infant their last lullaby before placing them in their tiny casket.......comforting families at the funeral service.........running a funeral home......making sure our foster children with severe FASD have the best possible life we can provide them and trying to teach them how to be responsible members of our community, just plain loving them.......trying to be a good step-mom to Papa's 15 year old daughter whom lives with us.......trying to be an awesome wife and an incredible grandmother.......then there is the volunteer work.......and let us not forget about time to ride my sled!!!

So I am sorry if my question was stupid.....guess I should have asked my dealer as my sled is in the shop for a check up now.
 

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quote cr500r;

Just an observation, not a jab, but after ONE THOUSAND AND TWENTY THREE POSTS/1023 one would think they'd have SOME information regarding their own snowmobile, but who the F am I?

She just got a REV a month ago.....Sorry Mama I see you set him straight already..
 

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BAMMER said:
quote cr500r;

Just an observation, not a jab, but after ONE THOUSAND AND TWENTY THREE POSTS/1023 one would think they'd have SOME information regarding their own snowmobile, but who the F am I?

She just got a REV a month ago.....Sorry Mama I see you set him straight already..
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show him how it is mama.......

Andrew
 

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andybob1001skidoomxz said:
1) have papa or ur dealer drop a hole in the limeter strap, this take weight off the front skis, moves weight to the back for traction.

2) tighten the front spring a lil bit to take a lil more weight off the front, which will move weight to the back for a lil more traction.

mmm, i think thats about it, ooo, then if u want wheelies take the rubber stopper off from the back of the coupling blocks and the skis will never touch the ground!


Andrew

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Done, dealer is going to crank up the front shock a bit for her..thanks for the input.
andybob1001skidoomxz said:
BAMMER said:
quote cr500r;

Just an observation, not a jab, but after ONE THOUSAND AND TWENTY THREE POSTS/1023 one would think they'd have SOME information regarding their own snowmobile, but who the F am I?

She just got a REV a month ago.....Sorry Mama I see you set him straight already..
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show him how it is mama.......

Andrew

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Good backup Andy

 

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Has it been like it since new? Maybe your rear shock was faulty, check the shaft that comes out of the body for oil, if it feels oily then the seal probably blew. I remember riding once on a sled with the shock taken off cause it froze and it was exactly as you discribed, bouncing all over the place.
 

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cr500r said:
Just an observation, not a jab, but after ONE THOUSAND AND TWENTY THREE POSTS/1023 one would think they'd have SOME information regarding their own snowmobile, but who the F am I?

I did not turn down my torsion springs after I had turned them all the way stiff/position 4 after riding two-up and this is what I noticed if it might help you.

The ride on the smaller bumps was nice, I did notice the rear suspension was very smooth while the torsion springs were all the way up to 4 but on the bigger bumps the rear end rebounded real quick. I turned my torsions back down to 2 and all was well again, I had better traction and I was using all of my suspension stroke and just lightly bottoming on only the biggest of hits.

It could be that your rear shocks are worn and all the rebound in the shock/oil/gas is all gone and your shocks are rebounding too fast.

I know after I rode my buddies 05 with 500 miles as compared to my 3,500+mile 04, his rear suspension was way better than mine so I bought some used rebuildable X-Shocks and had them re-oiled and re-charged and my rear end has been great ever since although I'll probably get them redone again for this next winter, this one is over, boo-hoo.

I hope this helps.
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You got some nerve mister.
 

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Do you bottom out the rear? (Do you feel it hit?) If not 2 things:
1 - your not riding hard enough or jumping high enough..... (j/k)

2- you could probably drop to a lighter rear spring.

Like mentioned try stiffing up the front track shock - This will give you more wieght shift. If it becomes too 'twitchy' - I often refer to it as riding on top of a ball - pull in the front of the track by tightening up the limiter straps - you may have a hand crank under there as most summits do. This will lower the attack angle of the track and will reduce your powder performance but will add stability to the sled.

3rd try tightening the fron springs on the skis - this will make steering slightly more harder as the front will bite more but will move the center of mass rearward some.

Or you could just add Yellow knife to the back end for added mass...
 

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I drove the sled, I think it's just that the rear suspension is too stiff for the rider's weight, even with everything on the softest setting.

Be careful with placing more weight on the track...we don't want mama in the trees from not having enough ski pressure.
 

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zdooman said:
This will lower the attack angle of the track and will reduce your powder performance
A lower attack angle = better powder performance I thought.
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opps - right - pulling the straps tighter will raise the angle but will lower the off trail performace.. ( i had the right results, just backwards on the term).

YK - agreed - too light a front end will have my results....
 

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zdooman said:
Do you bottom out the rear? (Do you feel it hit?) If not 2 things:
1 - your not riding hard enough or jumping high enough..... (j/k)

2- you could probably drop to a lighter rear spring.

Like mentioned try stiffing up the front track shock - This will give you more wieght shift. If it becomes too 'twitchy' - I often refer to it as riding on top of a ball - pull in the front of the track by tightening up the limiter straps - you may have a hand crank under there as most summits do. This will lower the attack angle of the track and will reduce your powder performance but will add stability to the sled.

3rd try tightening the fron springs on the skis - this will make steering slightly more harder as the front will bite more but will move the center of mass rearward some.

Or you could just add Yellow knife to the back end for added mass...
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Papa has the summit I have the MXZelda......
I would like to have the steering a bit harder......I am finding it too easy to turn and sometimes I over turn Zelda.

I never bottom out and lord knows I have tried!

Sounds exactly like my fix, I need the front to bite more and need the mass rearward some. (sounds like a porn movie) hehehehehe

I hate riding powder so I wouldn't care about that......give me trails and lakes and speed.....way more speed!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks......I knew I could count on most DooTalkers to help!!!
 

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You crashed Zelda? (er I mean turned over.... counts as a crash...)

Which by the way is what we call my dad (kids call him papa) after 3 tip overs this weekend...

If you have the rear springs as soft as you can get them then stiffen up the front skis and front track - only dont lengthen the limiter straps.

(Buddy had to change to softer rear springs for his wifie - shes like 90#s wet... seems to me there is a pic here somewhere from the novi show. Anyway - its $$$ for new springs but that is an option.)
 
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