I'll say they were rough. One thing I noticed up there is oncoming sleds are just as apt to be on my side of the trail as anywhere else. Saw about 12 sleds on the way to Wawa. Trails above Halfway weren't too bad.We decided to have a late lunch yesterday at chapleau , 400 kilometers later we made it back to searchmont. No grooming happening around chapleau. Trails on whitman dam road were pretty rough.