Change the springs, call Hygear and also get the torsion spacers.
rear suspension sag
own a 05 500ss adr. and just pulled it off the trailer from sitting all winter except for starting every month and spinning the track.anyway i have it in my garage and when i push down on the rear bumper it does not want to return to full hieght.i have to help it up about 3-5 inches.is this normal?when i push and pull up and down on the bumper it has resistance(dampning)that part feels good.i just thought it should return by it self more torwards the top.i also owm an 06 500ss and that one seems to return higher.any thoughts?
thank you.
kevin.
thank you.
kevin.
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Pretty common. You need new springs and probably new shocks (the gas has leaked out of the existing shocks and they're not rebuildable.)
Springs control the height and load, shocks control the springs. I'm not saying your shocks are good or bad just making a statement.
with no weight on the sled, the gas in the shocks will assist with return. Not much, but they do assist. If you don't think so, put a set of non-gas shocks on your skid and see what happens.
is the suspension supposed to return to fullstop on top?by it self?
Here is my take. A hpg shock with 300lbs of nitrogen in it = about 45-50lbs of rod pressure. This is measured on a shock dyno. So take a hyd shock and put a hpg on and your suspesnion will feel stiffer when you push on it because of the shock rod pressure. I'm not saying it will ride stiffer because thats the valving. I think mostly what goes on is the torsion springs either take a set of get weak . Either way they loose preload. So you really have two things to control sag spring preload and your shocks rod pressure. I would lean more towards the springs than the shocks. You should have your shocks serviced every year just because of the amount of water they get inside them. A shock that has lost some/all its nitrogen must be rebuilt!!! those who think its ok to recharge I ask. "where did the nitrogen go"? If it didnt leak out of the filler valve then the nitrogen is mixed with the oil making your shock an emulsion shock. Nothing wrong with an emulsion shock, but your hpg is not designed that way.
okay i am 180 lbs and the dealer set the sled up with the rear springs set on the lowest setting(weakest).so should i go to the middle setting or right up to the max.i really cant remember if the sled was like this last year.
Its just more of BRP quality, everyone on here complains about it.
Get yourself a set of Hygear springs and have them valve your shocks then it will ride like it should have in the first place.
Get yourself a set of Hygear springs and have them valve your shocks then it will ride like it should have in the first place.
Sounds like a good idea . Hygear makes his own springs?Mikadoo said:Its just more of BRP quality, everyone on here complains about it.
Get yourself a set of Hygear springs and have them valve your shocks then it will ride like it should have in the first place.
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seems like it rode fine last year just dont know if something happened over the summer or if this is the way it was when i got it.
Is the Torsion Spacer Kit difficult to install?? Will I need to take all the suspension down??
No it's very easy. Just take out the 2 bolts that hold the rear suspension and then jack up the rear of the sled by the bumper. Once the rear mounting bolts drop past the tunnel remove the springs and install the spacers.Motorbreath said:Is the Torsion Spacer Kit difficult to install?? Will I need to take all the suspension down??
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so all the tools i need is a socket wrench for the bolts?
On the 05 sc-4 suspensions that was the way they were designed, to prevent the rear end from kicking up, better top out resistance, as far as your sled i think it has the sc-3 so I am not sure
If it was sitting a long time and was not greased before storing it, things could be rusted up. Before spending money on springs, try greasing it, and see if that helps.
If the track is sitting on any object other than the floor, remove it and try again!
The coupling in the rear skid will have this presumed effect when sitting on a roller pad for instance...when located under the track in various positions.
Good luck and let us know.
The coupling in the rear skid will have this presumed effect when sitting on a roller pad for instance...when located under the track in various positions.
Good luck and let us know.
well i was told that when i store the sled over the summer time i should take the weight off the rear susp.and that when i start riding again this winter that the susp would return to normal once i get heat in the rear shocks and what not.
Time for a new dealer!well i was told that when i store the sled over the summer time i should take the weight off the rear susp.and that when i start riding again this winter that the susp would return to normal once i get heat in the rear shocks and what not.
Riding a off season suspension will loosen it up a little should there have been some corrosion occuring over the off months but it will NOT fix or rebuilt itself!!
I highly recommend the torsion spacers sold here on dootalk, you will find they signifigantly reduce the binding in the rear torsion springs as designed by doo.
I'm sure this will eliminate your sag problem.
Should you find after riding that you can not adjust the ride quality to the desired ride you are after, it is then I would look into the next rate or spring.
Let us know how this works out for you!
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