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NEW Light snow motorcycle, snowmobile, tracked motorcycle 4 seasons (snow, ice, mud, sand...)

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They have all the utility that the old lightweight 1-cylinder snowmobiles had, but even lighter, but much more maneuverable, easier to drive on irregular and inclined terrain and comfortable, more traction (the weight is on the track)
Plus it works all year round. In addition there is gasoline and or electric motorization
The prototypes have been running for 3 years, the public launch took place on November 3!

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it's completely different, the Dingo has 2 skis and a link suspension, the track is small. It doesn't tilt like a motorcycle, it doesn't ride 4 seasons.

There are no Russian snowmobiles available in Canada or the USA.
Only a Snow Dog.
 
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I could see this being decent at powerline and pipeline patrolling. Sometimes the bigger machines are tough to handle on sides lopes in different snow conditions.

Have you towed much with these units?

There aren't many modern machines that could be thrown into a ski plane, but towing a boggan is a necessity in the work I do.
 
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I could see this being decent at powerline and pipeline patrolling. Sometimes the bigger machines are tough to handle on sides lopes in different snow conditions.

Have you towed much with these units?

There aren't many modern machines that could be thrown into a ski plane, but towing a boggan is a necessity in the work I do.
Prototype with a smaller engine, the engine is geared up enough to pull hard
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B94VhY474r4

This video of the very first handmade prototype shows the effectiveness of this configuration with 4 to 5 feet of snow, after a storm, with an engine of only 212cc!. As well as the extreme ease of driving it without tiring. in addition to the different sensation of a snowmobile, we are no longer close to the ground, there is a big hood between us and the snow, we could almost imagine ourselves skiing down a slope virgin.
 
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Manufacturing

 
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2nd prototype in the middle of summer

 
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THANKS,
I insulated certain parts with rubber, because the slightest vibration can be heard unlike a gasoline version.
I also removed all the clips from the track, because the snapping of the clips on the sprockets was noisy. So it's almost total silence. With this motor, which is closed in the chassis, we hardly notice the whistling of the engine which increases in frequency with the RPM. On my previous electric vehicle, this whistling sound gave the impression of speed, since the RPM always increases with speed, whereas on a gasoline vehicle with CVT, the RPM increases very little with speed.

This one has a small battery, comparable to the 'competition' of small electric snow bikes. Which gives 1 hour continuously. Lion with probably the best 21700 cells (less than half the weight of LiPoFe)
it is between the weight of the Tracto 224 and the Tracto 306, plus the weight is lower on chassis, so really no problem on that side. Probably as a base there will be a battery with more reserve than this one. with this battery. But costs increase very quickly with batteries. The mini range extender that we are experimenting with (40cc 4-stroke ultra silent) allows us to increase the autonomy, and to recharge completely if we are not riding. It does not provide the continuous power necessary to power the electric motor with a maximum power of 7500watt (13500watt peak).
This requires continuous energy of 5000 watts to travel at 40 km/h on such a light vehicle. The continuous energy required with a track and snow is nothing like that of a small motorcycle or bicycle.
The energy required increases exponentially with speed for a snowmobile. If it were a trail vehicle with no speed limit, the continuous energy on compact snow at 100km/h is around 34,000watt.!!! (drains a battery quickly)
At least for the Traktibike to perform the majority of utility tasks and to have fun in the woods, a long autonomy is not essential.
otherwise there are the gasoline versions, whose low consumption will not compensate for the extra cost of the electric version. It is more for the electrical experience (silence, torque, no need to stop and start the engine each time it stops) that it may be worth it.
 
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I find the autonomy of the Tracto E very short with the basic battery without the range extender. But for its weight and its price, it holds up well compared to an electric BRP (expedition):
'30km of autonomy at a maximum speed of 25km/h in ideal conditions.'
The price is not indicated but it will surely be more than 10,000.
BRP still does well to specify that these are not long-distance hi performance trail snowmobiles unlike Taiga. Taiga are very powerful, but if the power is used, the duration will be very short