[Lee F.]

My brand new 2033 LE with 900 turbo is pushing so bad in corners it's dangerous. No matter how slow I go it doesn't want to turn. In the owners manual there is a section on suspension adjustment but it doesn't specifically address this problem. Note: with a total load of approximately 350 lbs. it's bad. Add another 175 lbs. of passenger and gear and it's nearly impossible to turn. Other than take it to the dealer 2.5 hrs. away, what can I try to resolve this?

 

[08SWT]

The dealer can't do anything, it's probably a combination of soft snow and suspension adjustments. Adjust the rear spring to stiffest setting, and the limiter strap all the way up (no holes left) and see what happens. Start there and adjust more if needed. They make super aggressive carbides or you can change skis as a last resort. Check your toe in also, it should tow out about 1/4".

 

[Oz1]

My LE was pushing on the corners with the stock carbides too. I stiffened the springs one flat by going to 2. Then after riding a bit, I rolled into the next flat on the front shocks with the provided adjustment tool. That took care of it. About halfway into the season I put 6" Studboy duecebars on the ski's. The sled turns great at low speed and tracks awesome on hard surface. In new and soft snow the skis still push a bit.

 

[Ryan76]

stiffer front ski spring tension settings push harder on the skis. less center spring settings push harder on the skis. higher rear torsion spring settings keep skis better planted on the ground. better carbides help. cranking the limiter strap all the way tight no holes left will take half or more of the center shocks travel away and make the sled ride harsh. that's not how I would solve this issue. when I built my 2 up 700 triple grand touring in 2020 riding double the skis never were truly planted and this kind of problem existed for 3 seasons riding double. its why my other half now has her own sled to ride haha.

 

[08SWT]

stiffer front ski spring tension settings push harder on the skis. less center spring settings push harder on the skis. higher rear torsion spring settings keep skis better planted on the ground. better carbides help. cranking the limiter strap all the way tight no holes left will take half or more of the center shocks travel away and make the sled ride harsh. that's not how I would solve this issue. when I built my 2 up 700 triple grand touring in 2020 riding double the skis never were truly planted and this kind of problem existed for 3 seasons riding double. its why my other half now has her own sled to ride haha.

I said start with no holes left and see what happens..............

 

[suv1]

Note: with a total load of approximately 350 lbs. it's bad. Add another 175 lbs. of passenger and gear and it's nearly impossible to turn.

So what you're saying is you have over 500lb sitting on the sled, that's too much weight even for the front heavy turbo, it's no wonder the front feet is off the snow

 

[Red Rooster]

stiffer front ski spring tension settings push harder on the skis.

This is a typical misconception. Weight transfer happens in the skid, not in the skis shocks. The front shocks will come to full extension no matter the spring setting, and cannot give you any more, regardless of spring tension. Cranking up tension only makes the sled chattery in small bumps and grooves, since the skis can no longer follow the terrain properly, and reduces ride quality and turning ability.

It's mostly about the rear springs, they should all have the big SWT torsion springs, and people need to stop thinking they can carry 200 pounds of crap in a 50 pound box on the rear end of their tunnel, 3-4 feet off the ground, and still have a nice handling sled.....

 

[Ryan76]

This is a typical misconception. Weight transfer happens in the skid, not in the skis shocks. The front shocks will come to full extension no matter the spring setting, and cannot give you any more, regardless of spring tension. Cranking up tension only makes the sled chattery in small bumps and grooves, since the skis can no longer follow the terrain properly, and reduces ride quality and turning ability.

it's mostly about the rear springs, they should all have the big SWT torsion springs, and people need to stop thinking they can carry 200 pounds of crap in a 50 pound box on the rear end of their tunnel, 3-4 feet off the ground, and still have a nice handling sled.....

Just quoting the operators manual….

 

[Ryan76]

I said start with no holes left and see what happens..............

Opeators book says to not pull limiter strap up tighter in “most conditions” i would agree it makes the sled handle horrible

 

[Ryan76]

Basically making a sled handle well with 450 poinds on the seat is not gonna be easy bottom line. Crank the strap do whatever it takes to keep skis planted. One of those things you have to try things or ride solo or deal with it skis 2’ off the ground

 

[the_renegade]

I would loosen the center shock preload all the way then adjust your rear sag with the torsion spring adjustments. Your sag is going to be quite different with a passenger so note your settings for rider and rider+passenger. It should steer well at that point but may bottom out too often. Gradually increase the center shock preload until you find a happy balance between ski push and suspension bottoming. Hope this helps!

 

[08SWT]

Opeators book says to not pull limiter strap up tighter in “most conditions” i would agree it makes the sled handle horrible

I said to just try it as a starting point and go from there. Also again, the dealer is not going to do anything, just listen to us and we will cure the O.P.'s pushing problem.

 

[Onelunga]

Is the rear skid locked in the up position. My 23 expedition se turbo pushed like a dump truck lock the rear articulated skid up and front shocks on 3rd position handles corners like a champ. I did the gaspe 2 weeks ago 1200 miles in 4 days handles pretty damn nice for such a big sled.

 

[pierre3737]

I ended up installing Simmons Gen 2 skis and world of difference, many posts on this here

 

[18000HP]

I would buy and install a set of aggressive SnowTrackers under the skis...It solved the problem on my old Skandic with the stock skis.

 

[08SWT]

I would buy and install a set of aggressive SnowTrackers under the skis...It solved the problem on my old Skandic with the stock skis.

I agree and it would cost much less and probably turn easier. Just Studboy shaper bars won't cure a bad pushing problem.

 

[Lee F.]

I would buy and install a set of aggressive SnowTrackers under the skis...It solved the problem on my old Skandic with the stock skis.

I can't seem to find anyone who sells the #202292 for my Pilot 7.4 skis. Any suggestions?

 

[18000HP]

I can't seem to find anyone who sells the #202292 for my Pilot 7.4 skis. Any suggestions?

If you're looking for SnowTrackers for your particular sled and skis maybe give them a call.
Check out their number on the website.

SCM-GL - Snowtracker

SCM-GL inc. is a Quebec company located in beautiful since 2001. Designer of SnowTracker, WheelTracker and Everlaster, which allows snowmobile enthusiasts to rediscover the pleasures of a pleasant and safe driving on snowmobile trails, and this in all conditions.

snowtracker.com

 

[Lee F.]

If you're looking for SnowTrackers for your particular sled and skis maybe give them a call.
Check out their number on the website.

SCM-GL - Snowtracker

SCM-GL inc. is a Quebec company located in beautiful since 2001. Designer of SnowTracker, WheelTracker and Everlaster, which allows snowmobile enthusiasts to rediscover the pleasures of a pleasant and safe driving on snowmobile trails, and this in all conditions.

snowtracker.com

OK. I can get them from Quebec but I just realized that the part # I show is for the Semi aggressive. The aggressive part # is 192292 and it is not available. It is the aggressive that you have, correct?

 

[18000HP]

OK. I can get them from Quebec but I just realized that the part # I show is for the Semi aggressive. The aggressive part # is 192292 and it is not available. It is the aggressive that you have, correct?

Correct...If the Semi aggressive are the only ones available for your application, I would sure give them a try.
Were you able to talk to anyone there ?? They should be able to match something that would work good for your machine.
I would be surprised that there's a language issue with them but If there is, just PM me and maybe I can help.