Running it in my 600r. No problems other than having a lot more $$ to spend on other stuff other than oil!

 

Is it the Mystic 2T Full Synthetic that you are considering/running?

I must have run 4 gallons of the Mystic 2T full syn. in my 500SS. The sled always ran just fine but the smoke it made was not nice at all. Of course, the 500SS is carbureted and so crude compared to the E-TEC of today, especially the Gen2 E-TEC in the 850 and 600R.

It is very cheap oil though.

 

They use to sell it cheap at Fleet Farm in Wi, but no longer, and I can't find it, and I'm pretty much out of oil. I too am looking at an alternative oil.

 

I've run a couple gallons through my 850 so far. No issues. It's about $17 a gallon here at a oil distributor in Michigan.

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I use mystic full syn in my 850. Works great. $26 a gallon at Fleet Farm. Meets all requirements. Warranty can not be denied period.

 

They sell recycled oil around here real cheap $ 10 gal Canadian, you cut with kerosene 4 to 1 if used with injector oil systems, lol

Here we go again

 

Drain oil is even cheaper. That's why I own a four stroke, so the oil I drain out of it can go in my 850 injection system. You never can be too cheap ya know.

 

I use mystic full syn in my 850. Works great. $26 a gallon at Fleet Farm. Meets all requirements. Warranty can not be denied period.

Please, help us out, seriously; what are the requirements? I have never seen them published.

You are probably correct on the warranty issue. If they deny it just hire a lawyer and in 5-6 months you'll probably win - assuming you have the requirements. :shrug

 

Mystic full syn is $26 a gallon at Farm and fleet. My dealer sells bulk XPS full syn for $35. Is the $9 in savings really worth it. I think not.

MODERATORS- cant we just have 1 oil thread and all others get referred to the one kept? Add belts, carbides and loud cans as well to this concept. It would really clean the site up.

 

Please, help us out, seriously; what are the requirements? I have never seen them published.

You are probably correct on the warranty issue. If they deny it just hire a lawyer and in 5-6 months you'll probably win - assuming you have the requirements. :shrug

Believe it or not skido actually has specifications on page 143 of the gen 4 owners manual. Never seen them before myself. Says it must meet JASO FD (m345-2004) and SAE J1536, SAE GRADE 4 (F/M 4).

 

I’m actually shocked they put a spec out there.

 

Awesome! Thank you!

Maybe we can finally put these oil threads to rest.

 

Right, sure we can.

 

Just run Klotz........ your buddies behind you will thank you

 

My 2014 had the requirements in the book too

 

Instead of mods changing up and referring all oil threads together, they should filter out the smart ass comments. Almost any thread anymore has someone post something stupid. If you aren't contributing in a positive way, just don't reply

 

http://www.jalos.or.jp/onfile/pdf/2T_EV_LIST.pdf

again anything rated as fd should do well... i can count 160 different oil right there...plus in case of emergency fc ones will do very well...less detergent thats it...

 

Does anyone know of a warranty claim denied by Brp that was actually causes by an oil related failure? Not run dry or "I heard" of a failure, an actual claim denied.

 

Just run Klotz........ your buddies behind you will thank you

I love the smell of klotz!!!

 

Does anyone know of a warranty claim denied by Brp that was actually causes by an oil related failure? Not run dry or "I heard" of a failure, an actual claim denied.

Years ago, yes. Wifes family had oils react and turned into something like Jello.

On the other side of that, years ago I had a motor go down after the warranty. Dealer asked if I was running Doo oil - I was, they said no problem, we'll cover it.

Those were both back in the 90s. Recently I have no examples either way.

 

It's good oil, run it in my SDI and carb. My buddy runs it in his 2016 600 etec, 2100 miles no issues.

 

They use to sell it cheap at Fleet Farm in Wi, but no longer, and I can't find it, and I'm pretty much out of oil. I too am looking at an alternative oil.

See it all over at the Fleet Farms I shop.

 

I know I am renewing an old thread but I didn't want to start another oil thread. The reason why i started looking is I have a MY 21 850 coming in the fall and I have been running Maxima Tundra oil in my sleds the last 4 seasons, and I buy it by the case so it works out to less than 30 bucks a gallon delivered to your door. The part of the specs where Ski Doo "Has" you so to speak is the SAE grade 4 requirement. I emailed Maxima and the tech told me it does not have a grade 4 rating. this has had me researchin this topic a lot over the past two weeks and as far as I can tell there aren't many oils that meet this requirement. I know for sure that four oils do because they state that they do on their technical data sheets. Amsoil Interceptor, Amsoil Dominator, Motul Snowpower full synthetic, and believe it or not Quicksilver full synthetic snowmobile oil. I have emailed tech support from other manufactures and either haven't gotten a response yet, or got answered with a direct no. the Mystic tech support person I emailed responded with they didn't even know what SAE grade 4 was, and that I should stick to the manufacturers oil for warranty purposes. Also Mystic JT4 full synthetic is not JASO FD rated its only FC rated. The oil company I am waiting for to respond is Spectro, looking at the data sheet for SYN SNO it should meet grade 4 but that's only speculation. Lastly three of the 4 oils mentioned are equivalent in price to XPS ETEC, the cheapest however is Quicksilver at roughly 30 bucks a gallon. If you feel comfortable running Quicksilver, great, other than that is there really a benefit to not running XPS? I don't like spending 50 dollars a gallon like everyone else but I am having a hard time convincing myself that there is.

 

You can get XPS at 32 to 35 gallon on sale at some dealers.

 

^^^ Sure can. Buy it during the fall sales and its as cheap as anything else on the market.

Maybe Rushman can work out a deal with his dealer when he gets his sled.