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OK, after a little ink spent on my last post: "800 not that much better then 1200".. i decided i needed to get objective measures to compare these sleds.. so i went and rented the two renegades: 800 and 1200 and compared to my mxz 800. Here are the results.:

Sled 1: 2013 MXZ X 800 ETEC stock except for ice ripper track. 5000 miles on it, clutch cleaned recently

Sled 2: 2014 Renegade X 800 stock, rental vehicule, 4000 miles on it.. clutch?

Sled 3: 2014 Renegade X 1200 stock, 2000 miles, new strap, clutch?

Conditions for test : -9 Celcius, 175 Metre elevation, cloudy with light snow, trails groomed but only semi hard, and runs on lake with ice botton Under 2 inchs of packed. All shock where preloaded the same, full gas, same rider, same trails . I made 4 runs on each up and down, and made average but all runs where consistant.

Test: 1/4 mile: with GPS start to 1/4 mile from stop.. max speed on GPS

Test: top speed, on lake about 1 km tucked behind windsheild

Test: Rolling 30 m/h on 200 feet: max speed at 200 feet..

Results:

MXZ X 800: 1/4 mile: 94 mph, 30-200 feet Rolling start: 69 mph, top speed: 100 mph

Rene X 800: 1/4 mile: 96 mph, 30-200 feet Rolling start: 70 mph, top speed: 104 mph

Rene X 1200: 1/4 mile: 92 mph, 30-200 feet Rolling start: 70 mph, top speed: 99 mph

Riding: Test was a 60 km trail ride, with straights, long turns and a few tight turns, whoops and a little chatters, this trail represents my usual conditions.

MXZ X 800: Pros: turns easy and wheigt distribution is centered. Hook up is a weak point. a little push in cortners

Rene X 800: Pros: turns pretty well, not much push in corners, excellent hookup, super good bump handling, but the track is more present.. you can feel a long grip Under your seat.. so turn in is a little slower

Rene X 1200: Pros: Suprising motor, pulls to 145 km/h as fast as 800, tracking is a little lower, sorta between the 120 and 137 800's because weight is more on the front. Suspension is alson a little less effective, maybe like the short track, still good but not as much as the 800 because of weight of chassis. Ski push is present, maybe a little more then on the others but i'm not sure , suspension setup was minimal.

Even though the 800 seems faster, i rode average moving speed of 49.9mph on the 1200 vs 47.6 mph on the 800 for my 40 mile loop... it was second run so i had more confidence the 2nd time on the 1200 but at least you can't say i was going slower in general.. fast paced 1200..

So there..
 

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ON ice with studs the mxz would be ahead, but in real world, traction is more important then power...
 

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interesting how the rene is faster than the mxz
My 1200 Gade walks all over a short track in real world conditions. More traction and lower gearing.

Top end is the only place a shorty will be faster, and only a couple mph. Drag racing on predictable conditions is one thing, but on real snow, real conditions, Gade > shorty
 

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Well, i did it because i'm changing myself in 2015.. and was still on the fence as to 800 or 1200, and short vs long track.. now i know it's long track..and if there is a few improvements on the 1200, that'll seal the deal...
 

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Ya... trailer size can be a problem..mine fits really tight in with a 137.. the 144 probably won't make it..
 

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I've got a 10ft clamshell sno pro trailer and I need to throw a blanket over the hood of my 137 because the lid hits the windshield when I close up the trailer. No way would a 144 fit.
 

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You didn't mention anything about the belts. Any kind of variance there could make a lot of difference on the runs. As close as they were, the belts must have been within close specs of each other.
 

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Since they where rentals, i actaully blew a belt on the 1200.. so one of them was warmed up for 40 miles then tested.. my belt was 1000 miles on it but had pretty much good deflection.. and the Rene 800 was the best i don't know about his belt
 
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