Are the new Injectors able to handle more then 220 if you make a race fuel flash or will they only be good for the 220 flash? How much room is left on the table with them for future gains is basicly what I’m asking?

 

The injectors will handle whatever the stock turbo will produce as we proceed with the next hp level in the future

 

The injectors will handle whatever the stock turbo will produce as we proceed with the next hp level in the future

Is it safe to say the turbo is done at this point for making power? That seems to be the industry consensus at least. My question is why wouldn't you offer something like a 1000cc injector so that the customer is never boxed in with components which have to be replaced as power increases become available. Surely you are working on a larger turbo setup which sounds like it would already not have enough fuel with the current injector offerings from Hurricane.

 

or at least be able to use these injectors for the next step bigger turbo mod. So you can stack parts from different stages for future higher HP applications. it does seem the turbo is done now, they went up 5 pounds or so of boost from the 205 tune and only got 15 hp (16is to 21ish). seems like its out of efficiency or is it the stock exhaust holding power back ? correct me if I am wrong! Or what do you guys think is left in this tiny turbo? Either way thank you for pushing this package and being transparent with us hurricane performance with showing us dyno sheets with this tune!

 

We have been very careful to make this tune to tune as perfectly as the 195 & 205 or stock tunes do. We picked the injectors to give us proper fuel control for the turbo but I am not interested in compromising the perfect drivability . 1000cc injectors will compromise certain parts of the drivability and cold starts. I’m quite sure that some guys will want to debate this but there’s a reason why brp,Yamaha,etc only use the injectors that they need for the power level. Otherwise they would all just throw big injectors in everything instead of needing multiple different sizes for each application

 

We have been very careful to make this tune to tune as perfectly as the 195 & 205 or stock tunes do. We picked the injectors to give us proper fuel control for the turbo but I am not interested in compromising the perfect drivability . 1000cc injectors will compromise certain parts of the drivability and cold starts. I'm quite sure that some guys will want to debate this but there's a reason why brp,Yamaha,etc only use the injectors that they need for the power level. Otherwise they would all just throw big injectors in everything instead of needing multiple different sizes for each application

Thanks Dave for the response.

 

Going to take some patience here folks. I am sure there is more to come with this package from various vendors, I know I am interested to see how the yamacat turbo package goes that hurricane developed back in the summer. If it were in the 250-260hp power range on pump gas that would be perfect for this 900T and what I am sure most of us average trail riders would be satisfied with. just gotta play the waiting game, but at least we have companies like hurricane pushing the HP development for us and relaying back the info as they go to dootalk that's awesome.

 

Boys, I think in the end is this is the package Dave is offering/selling. Its priced very reasonably. His objective is to have stock driveability with much more HP. For the dollar to the increase HP this is a great package. If Dave brings out a more HP package so be it. Keep in mind the only package I'm aware of with more options down the road is the Motec system. Start pricing that system out and you will soon learn that the price of Dave's kit is extremely fair.

Safe trails.

 

Boys, I think in the end is this is the package Dave is offering/selling. Its priced very reasonably. His objective is to have stock driveability with much more HP. For the dollar to the increase HP this is a great package. If Dave brings out a more HP package so be it. Keep in mind the only package I'm aware of with more options down the road is the Motec system. Start pricing that system out and you will soon learn that the price of Dave's kit is extremely fair.

Safe trails.

Well said....

Dave knows this sport well, and has always been a leader in making power and understands MORE then other tuners how a cost effective package is what many riders are after. Combine that with the gurus at GAP Innovation and the best customer service relations, and you have a winner.

Keep up the great work on the 900t Hurricane.

Dan

 

Money is an issue for alot of us today and some, it's not an issue. To make options, and affordable options, is very much appreciated by us on limited funds. It makes good business also. Keep up the great work Dave!

Bob

 

WE HAVE ACCESS TO ALL NESSESARY INJECTORS TABLES. This is for all the the other guys reading this thread!!!!!

 

Dave already stated that the injectors can handle anything that the stock turbo can put out.

There will be some that go with a bigger turbo BUT NOT MANY high mileage trail riders are going to spend that kind of money, and for those that do, buying another set of injectors will be a minor expense compared to everything else needed for a bigger turbo upgrade.

My guess is that 85-90% of 900T owners want the added power that they don't have to build with aftermarket add ons or tinker with. Gas and go.

Hurricane's goal is just that.

So what's all the fuss is about?

 

Yes we understand, there is no fuss here from me at least but judging by the HP gains gained with the increase of 5ish pounds of boost and what the sxs industry is getting for hp per pounds of boost the stock turbo is pretty much at the limits. there are some 230ish tunes in the sxs industry but there e85 high octane tunes. I am not knocking what dave has done by no means I am thankful for their company to push this package HP wise at a reasonable cost. I am just saying what another member posted earlier is what are the HP limits of these new supplied injectors. we can tell the stock turbo is pretty much done... how much HP will these new injector's support moving forward when the next big tune comes out that's all.... 240, 260, 280? Slightly off topic but at what boost level should head studs be recommended?

 

Happy to hear my wildman buddy just spent some time with Dave as he just picked up a spanking new 2020 900t. He always goes big and just like his Winder, he took the 900t with zero miles to Dave's shop. So it will be fun to see how this sled works, It will get datalogged for feedback and will eventually get swapped over with a different track for North Bay runs.

Im looking forward to trying these 900t with tunes this winter!

Dan

 

Jamie might be going at it the wrong way. My thinking is with him asking question about the future goes back to 1200 turbo days

Lot of us bought fpp stage 1 kits and got locked Into 6psi of boost. If you wanted more then you had to buy a stage 2 upgrade which was .new turbo, and fuel system at the cost of $2500 ish. Then decompress your motor.

So asking about how big the Injectors were is a way to know if you can go to more power without having to buy new injectors again or. Fuel pressure regulator and pump.

 

Oh boy this forum is starting to look like the HCS 1100 from years past. Doo Talk was always a great place to get info, not pages of bantering back and forth. Guys stay on topic don't muddy this up. If you got legit Hurricane questions, call the man. He always takes time to talk, and talk and talk. Dave has stepped up and givem more so respect his efforts. My 2 cents

 

Jamie might be going at it the wrong way. My thinking is with him asking question about the future goes back to 1200 turbo days

Lot of us bought fpp stage 1 kits and got locked Into 6psi of boost. If you wanted more then you had to buy a stage 2 upgrade which was .new turbo, and fuel system at the cost of $2500 ish. Then decompress your motor.

So asking about how big the Injectors were is a way to know if you can go to more power without having to buy new injectors again or. Fuel pressure regulator and pump.

You got it and get it Andrew but people are sheep and some learn from the past while others simply continue to follow.

 

The HP numbers are goofy anyway. P efi is claiming 215hp at 18psi. Hurricane is claiming 220 at 21.5 psi. I think maptune is claiming 220 at about 20 psi.

 

Dave has been great to work with, and I believe his stuff runs as good as anyone's...I appreciate the fact that he is unwilling to release a tune until he is absolutely sure it is safe. I'm sure TD and Precision etc are great guys, but I have now tuned and ran 4 hurricane 900T's, and they have all been spot on, and never missed a beat. I loved the power of the sidewinder I had, but hated the snowmobile part... wanted a ski doo that would run like that.. got one, after hurricane was done. As soon as my injectors get here... I can't wait to try the new tune.

 

Dave has been great to work with, and I believe his stuff runs as good as anyone's...I appreciate the fact that he is unwilling to release a tune until he is absolutely sure it is safe. I'm sure TD and Precision etc are great guys, but I have now tuned and ran 4 hurricane 900T's, and they have all been spot on, and never missed a beat. I loved the power of the sidewinder I had, but hated the snowmobile part... wanted a ski doo that would run like that.. got one, after hurricane was done. As soon as my injectors get here... I can't wait to try the new tune.

I agree with you on this Dave and Chris from C-T Powersports have been great to work with. I have emailed Chris about upgrading my sled.

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I have to agree with you dan. Dave is a stand up guy, and he posts the results of his efforts, with the dyno sheet...
Then the skeptics show up to argue the results... without anything to back it up but their opinions.

Yes different dynos net different numbers and real world testing is where it's at, but wait.. looks like hurricane does that too...

I can tell you from my experience last week after multiple drags, roll ons and general monkey business that my 195 hurricane tuned xrs schooled the 2 850 mxz's that I was running with. And that's with only the tune and the as delivered Hurricane weights in the clutch. No spring changes etc. Literally let them go, then drive around them. It's my favourite part about this sled. And any dummy like me can do this mod in about 30 minutes total.

What's the hp of the 850?... and now consider the 900t is heavier and spinning a longer track... maybe not that crazy to think it could be making 195 hp is it?

 

you wanna play be prepared to pay, tuner guys do amazing things, with what they can, to a level unheard of. When they max out ability of hardware, and folks just want more, you just might have to toss down more coin to get it done. at least you are able to use the same flash device/ I went through 4 different stages of tuners when I was going from a rated 325 hp factory cummins, to 953 hp to the wheels, each big step/ evolution of my tuner of choice I had to cough up more money for the next best tuner. As stated above, te power is desired almost as mch as the reliability, the chance at having both is amazing.

 

Guys, it’s time to clean this up. This thread was started as an informative thread about a new product introduced to the market. No bashing or comparison to other companies has been intended. We rather let the sleds compare each other on the lakes through racing. There are lots of reports around the internet that will confirm the hurricane power claims in real world. We need to keep doo talk friendly and informative

 

Well said Dave ????

 

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