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Installing Pilot DS-2 Skis on a 1998 Tundra R

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#1 ·
Hello everyone!

I was browsing the internet last fall to find ideas on ski replacements for my 1998 Tundra R.
I stumbled across dooTalk and found a bunch of posts talking about ski replacements, skins, and alternatives for old Tundra models like mine.
It is thanks to this community that I successfully replaced the old skis on my Tundra, and knew what to expect during the installation.
Now I am posting photos of my install journey hoping it may also help others here in the future 😊

I decided in the end to replace the metal skis with the Pilot DS-2.
  • Pros: Reduces weight, better floatation, better handling, no snow sticking to skis
  • Cons: Expensive, made of plastic (less durable) with no interior metal frame
Here is a list of parts I ordered to get the Pilot DS-2's installed on my old Tundra:
Product NameSKUQTY
Pilot DS-2 Ski Kit (Comes with carbides)
860201487​
1
Ski Stopper | SPORT & LT (Rubber)
505072594​
2
Hex. Screw M10 X 130 (Main bolt)
250000703​
2
Spacer (Bushing)
506133300​
2
Spacer (Bushing washers)
505072579​
4
Stainless washers for outside of skisHardware store4

Here are other posts I found helpful during my research:
Ski options for 2000 Tundra R
new skis for 1998 tundra 2

I wish I had seen this one for a cool option to add skins to the stock skis instead of replacing them entirely:
08-401 Ski Skins on my 94 Instead of 08-404

Looking back though, my skis were probably already too far gone to cut down and use as a frame for skins.
I had not realized how far gone the bottoms of the skis were, and the metal under the pogo / rubber boot was rotting out almost completely on the stock skis:
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When trying to remove the old skis, the old bushings were rusted to the bolts. I could not remove the bolt because the bushing was stuck to it and no amount of lube, heat, or hammering would get it to separate and back out. Unfortunately I was forced cut the side of the ski off so that I could slide the bolt and fused bushing out as one piece:
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The new skis come with rubber stoppers that sit between the pogo and the new ski. Newer Tundra models have the knuckle protruding from the suspension cylinder and the foot can sit easily at an angle in the rubber stopper:
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The older Tundra's have the knuckle tucked inside the cylinder, and the original OEM rubber stopper is made on an angle to have the ski sit flat:
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Since we are adapting new DS-2 skis and rubber stoppers to the old style knuckles, there are two ways to get the ski to fit straight:
  1. Cut the end of the metal pogo off at an angle.
  2. Modify the new rubber stopper to give it the angle so the ski sits flat.
I chose option 2, but I have seen people successfully do option 1 too.

For my fix, I had to remove this bit of plastic in the center of the ski to allow it to sit flat when mounted on the Ski-Doo:
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I then had to cut an angle into the rubber stopper so that when the skis would naturally sit flat when mounted.
I did it by attaching a hole saw to my drill press, and the working a groove into the rubber and test fitting the ski until I could slide the bolt through the ski and have the ski angle sit more or less horizontal to the Ski-Doo:
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Here are the skis successfully mounted:
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And in use:
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Cheers!
 
#3 ·
Thanks!
I found the handling was the biggest improvement. I think mainly because the carbides on the pilot are shorter so even when totally stationary, turning the handles is easy and compared to the other Tundras with original skis, I could make tighter turns on hard snow AND in the powder with the Pilots.
The plastic is also less prone to snow sticking to it allowing it to glide more easily.

Deep snow performance is great too! I found since they are wider than the metal skis, they have more surface area and it helps keep the ski-doo up on top of the deep snow more easily.

Overall last winter, we were using that ski-doo as our lead machine to scout the trail while the other two followed to pack it down.
 
#9 · (Edited)
Everything Xeno provided above was spot on. I did the same by hollowing out the rubber stops to fit the pogos. The only tip I have to share is how I set up my drill press… I used the rubber blocks from the old skis and clamped a board on top of them to get the right angle, then screwed blocks on either side of the rubber block to hold it from spinning when the hole saw engages. After using a hole saw the same size as the pogo, I cut out the waste with a sharp utility blade.

Getting it centred:

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#11 ·
The only tip I have to share is how I set up my drill press… I used the rubber blocks from the old skis and clamped a board on top of them to get the right angle, then screwed blocks on either side of the rubber block to hold it from spinning when the hole saw engages. After using a hole saw the same size as the pogo, I cut out the waste with a sharp utility blade.
Thank you @daveross, great work with the jig! Very clever using the original rubber block to set the perfect angle for the drill. I love it. I hope your Tundra is getting along well with the new pair of skis. :giggle: