Seems generally 4 or 5 yrs.

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Something like this

95 S chassis
99 ZX chassis
03 Rev chassis
08 XP,XR,XS
17 Gen 4

 

Yamaha 15 years same chassis (2003-2018) haha

The sled actually showed up in the states for testing in March 2001!

 

Yamaha 15 years same chassis (2003-2018) haha

The sled actually showed up in the states for testing in March 2001!

What sled lasted that long? There was the Deltabox chassis from 2003-2005, then the Deltabox II from 2006-2017, whenever it was the last year for the Apex.

 

I think the G4 will be around for a while, with maybe a cosmetic freshen up at some point

 

I think the G4 will be around for a while, with maybe a cosmetic freshen up at some point

Yea xp chassis basically 10 year. Xs as we know was still same bones just different plastics.

Probs same with g4.

 

I know many people think the XP, XR and XS were the same but while they may have all had the same tunnel, there were differences along the way. The plastics make a difference in comfort. The XS was more comfortable and not as cold to ride as an XP in my opinion.

I hear guys complain all the time about the G4 being much more cold on the feet and mid to upper body. That is all part of the "ride" from my perspective.

You can also argue there was evolution of the XP chassis over that time such as SC skid to rMotion and RAS to RAS2.

I think all of these factor into the "Chassis" discussion.

 

Nah, the XS was just a refresh. Other chassis had suspension changes too.

ZX SC-10,SC-10 II
Rev SC-10 III, SC-10 IV

 

What sled lasted that long? There was the Deltabox chassis from 2003-2005, then the Deltabox II from 2006-2017, whenever it was the last year for the Apex.

All the same damn chassis...lol..

 

Nah, the XS was just a refresh. Other chassis had suspension changes too.

ZX SC-10,SC-10 II
Rev SC-10 III, SC-10 IV

So you're saying chassis is nothing more than the tunnel?

We'll agree to disagree....... the tunnel, suspension, plastics make the sled.

Even if you don't want to include the plastic, a different suspension will make the same tunnel ride and handle differently.

 

Not saying they didn't improve it through the years.

Do you consider the new 800 Cats to be a new chassis when they put the Sidewinder/TCat plastic on them?

 

Not saying they didn't improve it through the years.

Do you consider the new 800 Cats to be a new chassis when they put the Sidewinder/TCat plastic on them?

I don't but my Cat buddy freaks out when I say they've had the same chassis since 2012, lol.

 

I don't but my Cat buddy freaks out when I say they've had the same chassis since 2012, lol.

Doesn't bother me, it's a great comfortable chassis with the best front end in the industry...

 

Watching him wait for the new 800, that was amusing also.

 

I think the g4 will be around a while, longer than the xp unless sometheing radically changes in snowmobiles. Just my .02.

You can still get on a '03-'07 rev and ride 200 miles in a day and get off and not be sore. In the end thats all that really matters.

 

"Other XS features are an LED taillight, a new snow flap and the running boards have a much stiffer extruded aluminum edge than before. There are no front end geometry or suspension changes compared to the former XP."

http://supertraxmag.com/features/2013-ski-doo:-xs-is-the-new-xp!/n2236

 

The original Rev is still pretty feasible IMO, other than you can't push your feet forward like on an XP. Huge step up over any other sled of that era.

 

XU kept the same plastic ever for at least 11 years (maybe more) and running. Some common pieces with the XR.

 

It used to be every 5 years, now it seems to be every 10.

As far as the XP/XR/XS deal, yes they made some improvements, but the chassis itself - the hard parts, remained the same. With not a whole lot of effort you could turn an '08 XP into a '15 XS.

 

So you're saying chassis is nothing more than the tunnel?

We'll agree to disagree....... the tunnel, suspension, plastics make the sled.

Even if you don't want to include the plastic, a different suspension will make the same tunnel ride and handle differently.

Chassis

noun, plural chas·sis [chas-eez, shas-] /ˈtʃæs iz, ˈʃæs-/.
Automotive . the frame, wheels, and machinery of a motor vehicle, on which the body is supported.

The chassis was unchanged for a decade. Sure it got new plastic and suspension, but the topic was asking about the chassis.

 

Chassis

noun, plural chas·sis [chas-eez, shas-] /ˈtʃæs iz, ˈʃæs-/.
Automotive . the frame, wheels, and machinery of a motor vehicle, on which the body is supported.

The chassis was unchanged for a decade. Sure it got new plastic and suspension, but the topic was asking about the chassis.

Well.... you proved my point to some extent.

The skid can be considered the "wheels and machinery"..................... so by your definition a change of wheels or any machinery housed in the frame, it would be considered a change in the Chassis.

That means a change in the skid or the front suspension would be a change in the chassis. There were different skids and different front ends with the same tunnel (or frame by your definition).

 

Well.... you proved my point to some extent.

The skid can be considered the "wheels and machinery"..................... so by your definition a change of wheels or any machinery housed in the frame, it would be considered a change in the Chassis.

That means a change in the skid or the front suspension would be a change in the chassis. There were different skids and different front ends with the same tunnel (or frame by your definition).

So an Enduro and Renegade are different chassis? They have a different suspension and amount of boggie wheels.

 

So an Enduro and Renegade are different chassis? They have a different suspension and amount of boggie wheels.

Same rMotion suspension.... just different shocks. Depends on how granular you want to be.

I'm just going by the definition you posted and of course there can be differences in interpretation but pretty hard to argue these aren't close to the same meaning from car to sled:

Frame = Tunnel

Wheels = Track and Skid

Machinery = Front Suspension

 

I think the g4 will be around a while, longer than the xp unless sometheing radically changes in snowmobiles. Just my .02.

You can still get on a '03-'07 rev and ride 200 miles in a day and get off and not be sore. In the end thats all that really matters.

I agree with how the G4 chassis will be around for a while. Figure, using modern CADesign along with the best possible materials, coupled with the design being made to work in harmony with the engines, there won't be much to change for a while-like cellphones have reached their peak as there is not much to improve upon.

I also agree with the original Rev chassis, I just traded my 2004 and had no problems with the ride all these years. I had been able to log many miles on the XP/XM/XU chassis' and their riding positions were even better. The Gen4 just stepped it up. I have only ridden the Gen4 WideBody so far and it is fantastic.

 

Same rMotion suspension.... just different shocks. Depends on how granular you want to be.

I'm just going by the definition you posted and of course there can be differences in interpretation but pretty hard to argue these aren't close to the same meaning from car to sled:

Frame = Tunnel

Wheels = Track and Skid

Machinery = Front Suspension

Just bustin balls man

For me, chassis means the framework / non-moving parts. So the tunnel, engine cradle, pyramid supports, etc. That was unchanged since 2008.