[scott_k2003]

Hi Dootalkers,

I am in the market for a used machine. Currently I have my eye on two different 08' 800's. I went into this wanting a Renegade 800 with X package so I could get the rebuildable shocks. However it is proving very difficult to find a Renegade with the X package (or tnt) in my budget range (6000 canadian). I have come across a couple nice 121" X package machines for about the same price. I am really torn here on what to do.

My thought is, I could purchase the renegade I have my eyes on. Less then 3000km on new factory motor. About 10,000km on chassis. New track (stock spec camoplast :-( ), good skis, good shape, with electric start. Its the standard package, so the shocks will need replacing.

Second machine, right around same cost but is 121 track, electric start, X package, c&a skis, excellent shape and very clean. Would cost me about 200 bucks in gas to drive there and back though.

The X package Renegades I have been finding are at least 1000-1500 more, more than I am willing to pay given the unpredictable nature of our winters the last couple years. I was thinking about purchasing an X package in 121 and stretching it, but realizing it is probably cheaper to purchase a gade and install X package (or aftermarket) shocks then to buy a new track, tunnel extension, rail extension and renegade heat exchanger. And I am not sure if the shocks are the same from 121 to 137.

I keep hearing how everyone with a renegade would never go back to a short track. I plan on hanging onto this machine at least two seasons so want to purchase something I feel confident in that I made the right choice and wont be second guessing. I am not sure if the premium guage package on the X model is worth worry over either, but I know I could put the X shocks on the Renegade and in essense have the X package for a 1000 less then what the used are selling for, minus the premium guage and adjustable hand/thumb warmers.

Thoughts?? I am torn!!!

 

[mxzxrider23]

it really depends on how you ride. if the only offtrail stuff you do is the occasional pass through the powder go with the shorty. i have primarily ride 121s and i find they are decent off trail if you keep up momentum. so personally i wouold say go with the 121, my dad has a renagade and when i ride his i can feel the extra length behind me in the tight and twisty.

 

[scott_k2003]

I should probably add. 75% on trail, 25% off. Trails around here do tend to get pretty rough. Not that I ride in a lot of super deep powder, so the additional flotation is not as much of an advantage as the improved ride characteristics. But I feel it's nice knowing you have that added track length when wanted.

 

[Trippy]

I have a 09 500ss... 121 and when ya put that next to my mighty Mach with a 136... ya can feel the difference. Eveeyone complains about 136 being long.... my buddy rides a 151on the trails.. the biggest difference i notice is that with the longer track, you dont feel all yhe small bumps. Having a bigger footprint on the snow helps a lot. It is mostly personal preference, but i would never buy a short track again... but that thing gets such amazing gas mileage .....

That's just my $.02

Let us know what ya decide on getting!!!! And good luck

 

[gary Wachter]

i own a 120 and i say, renegade renegade renegade!!!!

 

[Dirty Steve]

I ride with 3 guys with Gades. I go wherever they go off trail and they have no troubles on the trails keeping up with my shorty. If you want the bells and whistles by the X and don't look back.

 

[REV NH]

I had a short track, then rode a Renegade for two seasons, I'm going back to a short track. I didn't find the Renegade rode any better in rough terrain, and I did notice the extra length and weight when trail riding all day. I just don't ride enough off trail to make the sacrifices when I know I primarily trail ride. I'm pretty fanatical about set up with skis, carbides, and custom shocks and I just could not get a Renegade set up for the way I ride nearly as well as a shorty.

 

[Just_DOOIN' IT]

Unless your pushing the sled and yourself as hard as possible thru the tight twisties. Just get the gade.......happy trails!

X2 Get the gade, im extending mine soon and regret not getting one

 

[2dedge]

What are your trails like most trails I know of in Canada are wide open high speed!

 

[DBer]

If you want the gade, I would not sell yourself short - sorry, couldn't resist. Just wait until you find what you want, otherwise you will always wonder whether you made the right choice. It is still early...