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#1 ·
Hi guys,

I'm sure we've been over this topic a million times BUT I'd like to hear your thoughts.

So, I have a 21 Enduro that I ride with my wife. When I swap the OEM seat for the +1 +1 seat I lose the heated seat option. I'm wondering if anyone has installed or tried an aftermarket 12V Heated Seat Element?
I was also thinking I could install 2 elements (for both of us) because Ski-Doo does NOT make that as an option available on the Enduro.

Thx and have a Great Holiday!
 
#8 ·
I put a heated seat element in my renegade but the heater moved underneath the seat cover. Not sure what kind of adhesive to use, but it was inexpensive and worked well

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This spring after I bought my 21 Enduro. I researched what it would take to have the 1+1 seat added and have both positions heated. I sold my '17 Grand touring SE with both heated seats to my dad. The Enduro 1+1 wouldn't be the same for my daughter.

Seeing that skidoo doesn't have an option. I looked aftermarket and thought about doing all the wiring and heated elements myself. There are many automotive options. But it would involve a lot of cutting wiring.

I researched some more looking at Polaris and Arctic Cat. Amazingly, Arctic Cat sells a kit with two heating elements, and two hi/lol switches.

The more I looked at pictures of this kit I realized the plug was the EXACT same as the drivers position on my Enduro. So I bought one on eBay.

Dropped the seat off at a local upholstery shop and had them install one heating element for the driver position and one for the passenger position on the 1+1.

A week or two later they had it completed. Of course no snow but tested it in the garage. They both heated up! Now I had to install the one switch in the 1+1 hand grip. And the drivers position is plug and play using the skidoo switch.

The Arctic Cat number fort this kit is 7639-966. eBay has them. They were definitely not this much money back in the spring. Maybe others have the same idea. Or just covid bs...

The one switch isn't used at all since the drivers plug uses the stock Enduro plug and switch on the dash. I also had to make a pass through for the passenger cable through the battery box to connect to the passenger heated plug.

I need to make a dedicated how to for this. But I haven't even been able to test on an actual ride because no snow.

Being it is an actual product made for snowmobiling and an Arctic cat 4 stroke. I'm not worried.
Good Stuff!!! I’m in!! Ty!!
 
#5 ·
I was thinking/wanting to do this too, but some of the posts on DT have mentioned broken elements and holes burned in seat covers? I think these posts may be a couple of years old but it's kept me from moving forward with it.
 
#11 · (Edited)
I tried this on my 2021 XRS Renegade T & yes the element failed and burnt 2 hole in the cover. In the end I bought the heated seat from BRP & it has worked great so far. You might get lucky, but if you don't do you want to look at hole in your seat. The cover for the XRS is $499 Canadian, a cover for a regular Renegade is about $190.

You can also just buy the heated seat cover for a Enduro & put this on, switch & harness is also available separate.
 
#6 ·
What Zoggan said above is my concern. I have a 2015 GSX SE - precursor to your Enduro BaryC. My normal seat is heated. Finally bought a 1+1 Linq seat and installed brackets. It’s ready for winter. However, losing the heated seat when we go 2-up is not a great selling point for my wife and daughter.

I am toying with the idea of trying to do some sort of heating element install. Ideally something that I can wire into he pre-existing Ski-Doo wire plug for the normal seat. Most likely this is something I’ll table until after this season. None the less, it is something I’d ideally like to do…or have done…to our new 1+1 seat.
 
#7 · (Edited)
This spring after I bought my 21 Enduro. I researched what it would take to have the 1+1 seat added and have both positions heated. I sold my '17 Grand touring SE with both heated seats to my dad. The Enduro 1+1 wouldn't be the same for my daughter.

Seeing that skidoo doesn't have an option. I looked aftermarket and thought about doing all the wiring and heated elements myself. There are many automotive options. But it would involve a lot of cutting wiring.

I researched some more looking at Polaris and Arctic Cat. Amazingly, Arctic Cat sells a kit with two heating elements, and two hi/lol switches.

The more I looked at pictures of this kit I realized the plug was the EXACT same as the drivers position on my Enduro. So I bought one on eBay.

Dropped the seat off at a local upholstery shop and had them install one heating element for the driver position and one for the passenger position on the 1+1.

A week or two later they had it completed. Of course no snow but tested it in the garage. They both heated up! Now I had to install the one switch in the 1+1 hand grip. And the drivers position is plug and play using the skidoo switch.

The Arctic Cat number fort this kit is 7639-966. eBay has them. They were definitely not this much money back in the spring. Maybe others have the same idea. Or just covid bs...

The one switch isn't used at all since the drivers plug uses the stock Enduro plug and switch on the dash. I also had to make a pass through for the passenger cable through the battery box to connect to the passenger heated plug.

I need to make a dedicated how to for this. But I haven't even been able to test on an actual ride because no snow.

Being it is an actual product made for snowmobiling and an Arctic cat 4 stroke. I'm not worried.
 
#10 ·
This spring after I bought my 21 Enduro. I researched what it would take to have the 1+1 seat added and have both positions heated. I sold my '17 Grand touring SE with both heated seats to my dad. The Enduro 1+1 wouldn't be the same for my daughter.

Seeing that skidoo doesn't have an option. I looked aftermarket and thought about doing all the wiring and heated elements myself. There are many automotive options. But it would involve a lot of cutting wiring.

I researched some more looking at Polaris and Arctic Cat. Amazingly, Arctic Cat sells a kit with two heating elements, and two hi/lol switches.

The more I looked at pictures of this kit I realized the plug was the EXACT same as the drivers position on my Enduro. So I bought one on eBay.

Dropped the seat off at a local upholstery shop and had them install one heating element for the driver position and one for the passenger position on the 1+1.

A week or two later they had it completed. Of course no snow but tested it in the garage. They both heated up! Now I had to install the one switch in the 1+1 hand grip. And the drivers position is plug and play using the skidoo switch.

The Arctic Cat number fort this kit is 7639-966. eBay has them. They were definitely not this much money back in the spring. Maybe others have the same idea. Or just covid bs...

The one switch isn't used at all since the drivers plug uses the stock Enduro plug and switch on the dash. I also had to make a pass through for the passenger cable through the battery box to connect to the passenger heated plug.

I need to make a dedicated how to for this. But I haven't even been able to test on an actual ride because no snow.

Being it is an actual product made for snowmobiling and an Arctic cat 4 stroke. I'm not worried.
I’m also thinking about trying one step further along and wondering if I could figure out a way to get that set-up working with my OEM switch. 😉👍
 
#15 ·
FYI
If anybody wants to do their own it's very easy.
I found most info below on this site except for the RSI adapter
I bought the waterproof heated element on eBay ($30)
3m Super 77 spray adhesive ($22)
Central Pneumatic staple gun at Harbor freight along with 7/16 Wide x 3/8 Depth Staples. ($32).
Powered it by using RSI part# H4458 plug and play power adapter ($30) So no splicing into factory wiring. Works great!
Drill one hole on left side plate to mount Hi/Lo switch and splice power and ground into RSI harness.
I couldn't justify $550 OEM Skidoo seat that I'll barely ever need?
I just did a third seat with a RSI Gripper cover ($165) this seat cover is great you can't see the element under the thicker material they use.
 
#16 ·
Sounds good, are you going to have a shop install or yourself?

I was able to find a few pictures.

First one is after I got it and have it sitting out plugged in. Zoom in and see where the plugs are for drivers position then passenger. The passenger switch. And the SAE lead I installed under the seat for the passenger heated grips.

Second picture is from the back showing the SAE lead with splitter. One going to passenger heated grips (left backrest post grommet. Then other to the passenger heated seat (right backrest post grommet). Also the white thing on bottom right of battery box is where I installed the clear flexible tube to pass through the plug from the right side backrest/hand grip. That is where I installed the switch for passenger heated seat since the left one has heated grips switch.

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Making the wires from the Arctic cat harness fit in the post up to the hand grip was kind of difficult. Not only do you have to fit the wire for the plug to the seat. You also have to fit the power cable (foil covering) through as well goes to the switch. All through the bottom grommet.

Hopefully that gives you an idea of where to start LOL. I had no idea if it would work in terms of cable length. But they were plenty long. I decided to install it this way because I wanted the passenger to have their own control. Installing it on the dash wouldn't have been long enough.
 
#18 ·
I doubt Doo, Cat, etc have their own harness shop. I worked at a harness shop for 10 years and we did a lot of the same harnesses for the same function for different manufacturers, wether it be snow blowers, boats, logging equipment, tractors, etc. There’s a lot more engineering into a simple harness then you’d think, mostly to cover ‘what if’s’, so it’s not like there’s 20 variables of terminals, connectors, etc that serve the same exact purpose.
 
#19 ·
Just an update after finally getting snow and getting able to test out this heated 1+1 seat. It works! I normally don't use the heated seat other than to test it every once in a while. But after a few rides she had both the hand grips and the heated seat. She also has the heated visor plug which also works great. I will have to get me one of those and ditch the rubber breather.

Hi and low settings work. Here is a picture of the skidoo OEM heated grip switch (grey) on the left. And the Arctic cat heated seat switch (black) on the right grip housing. Same position... Almost like it was made for one... Forward is Hi ( III on heated grip switch), back is Low ( II ). Seat one is same forward for hi, back for low.


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#28 ·
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this is the Cat diagram someone posted , I checked my Cat switch included with the kit and it indeed has resistors , you can’t see but can check with a meter. My resistances didn’t match exactly , but they are there. if you have the Cat switch that came with the kit , I would measure the high and low resistances and then pick which resistor value you would like to add.
 
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#30 ·
Good to know about the resistors built into the Arctic cat switch and not the Doo switch. My mode of operation for me has always been to not even use it. When and if I do to see if it works I shut it off within 5 minutes because it gets too hot. Same with the heated seats in my car. They just get too damn hot regardless of a resistor (which in itself is a heating element).

It would be nice to know if the actual element has a built in thermostat that regulates temperature. I remember before they were installed in the seat. At the base of the wire in the heated element there was a raised black rectangle. Where all the wires went in. But that could also regulate the electrical current to limit getting too hot.

Anyways I just never worried about it when I did use it. Now my kid has her own sled and after this season I'll be taking the 1+1 off and going single again.

Which in that case does the Doo Enduro heated seat have built in resistors or thermostat since the switch doesn't? No one worried about that
 
#31 · (Edited)
Good to know about the resistors built into the Arctic cat switch and not the Doo switch. My mode of operation for me has always been to not even use it. When and if I do to see if it works I shut it off within 5 minutes because it gets too hot. Same with the heated seats in my car. They just get too damn hot regardless of a resistor (which in itself is a heating element).

It would be nice to know if the actual element has a built in thermostat that regulates temperature. I remember before they were installed in the seat. At the base of the wire in the heated element there was a raised black rectangle. Where all the wires went in. But that could also regulate the electrical current to limit getting too hot.

Anyways I just never worried about it when I did use it. Now my kid has her own sled and after this season I'll be taking the 1+1 off and going single again.

Which in that case does the Doo Enduro heated seat have built in resistors or thermostat since the switch doesn't? No one worried about that
I will look at the Enduro OEM Heated Switch and Element to see IF a resistor exists.
2 Years now and I STILL haven't used the 2up set-up, lol...
Ty!!
 
#32 ·
I'm doing the cheap $25 ebay heating seat on my doo 1200 this week. Can anybody tell me if the gorilla glue extra strength adhesive spray is safe to use to attach the element to the foam? I know some have said they used the 3M77, but I have the gorilla spray already on hand. All of these spray adhesives say highly flammable, and I can't find anything about gorilla's heat limits? Safe to use?
 
#33 ·
^^^ Normally the highly flammable part is more due to the propellant used as much or more than what's in the can - normally.

JUST MY OPINION, I HAVE NO FIRM KNOWLEDGE EITHER WAY, I would think a heating element wouldn't ever get hot enough to be an issue, and certainly not hot enough to ignite any kind of glue. If it were mine I'd use it.

That said, do what you think is best and proceed with caution.
 
#34 ·
^^^ Normally the highly flammable part is more due to the propellant used as much or more than what's in the can - normally.

JUST MY OPINION, I HAVE NO FIRM KNOWLEDGE EITHER WAY, I would think a heating element wouldn't ever get hot enough to be an issue, and certainly not hot enough to ignite any kind of glue. If it were mine I'd use it.

That said, do what you think is best and proceed with caution.
Need some further assistance.. got my $25 heated seat and trying to figure how I'm going to wire it? Assume I don't want to run directly to battery because it will run with sled off correct? I did find the aux 12v plug under the hood which I would like to utilize. So how do I run the black and red into the 3 prong 12v aux? I read some people got the RSI adapter but I can't seem to find one that specifies it fits my sled-2014 renegade 1200. Does anybody have a part number, or does Doo sell a female version to go into this aux plug? See pics.. thanks for any help
 

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