Clutch spacers

Idahodoo said:

QUOTE(duck899 @ Jan 21 2006, 12:30 PM) *

Still have a few left.......

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duck I brought this back to the top so they would get a hold of you duck899

instead of Idahodoo for spacers I am to Busy Doooing Vent building and working on my new sled to get into spacers right now.

I am working on side panel RT vents and hood vents for both REV's and RT's pic's soon on the other thred.

Pray to the SNOW GODS everyone I AM READY TO

Jon Clouser
JC'S Custom Vents
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Idahodoo on Dootalk
800dooHO on Snowest
3766 Stockman rd.
Pocatello ID 83204
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I call dibs on your first hood vent sale!!!!!!!!!!! (LOL!)
Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!

Rev xtreme said:

thinking about getting your spacer kit.just wondering how it works exactly and install.how you had any problems with the kit.

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Rev extreme.....Here is my story....

The spacer is a piece of round aluminum that takes up the space between the outer washer and splined shaft. Because the spacer is longer than the 'space', the bolt and washer locks the spacer to the splined shaft and allows the secondary to 'float'. Before installing the spacer you must remove your secondary and also remove 1 or 2 shims (washers) between the secondary and the bearing. With the secondary re-installed and the bolt and stock outer washer tightened you should have a total side to side movement of 1/4" of the secondary.

Now what happens is the secondary clutch will self align with the primary (which moves because of the torque) and belt wear and heat will be reduced. Its the wear on the one side of the belt that ultimatly destroys a perfectly good belt. This will happen most noticably at wide open throttle when pulling a hill. This is when I blew my first and only belt at 300 miles from new on my 800 renegade. I even took it back to the dealer to align which was a lost cause. Fortunately, they warranteed that first belt. Now, I hear that BRP does not warranty belts any more. With the spacer installed my clutch temperatures are way down after climbing a hill in the mountains. I had run the same belt for the rest of the seasons from December 2004 untill Febuary 2006 and about 3000 miles. I replaced that belt only because it was getting to the low end of the spec as measured by calipers but it showed even wear on both sides.
New belt measurement...in millimeters (metric)

Old belt measurement....after 3000 miles.

I also think that the clutches work better when the secondary floats as they are not fighting each other against the belt when the engine torques in and back towards the bulkhead and secondary.
One of the guys who bought a spacer did a video of what happens as the engine is on and off the throttle and it is pretty evident as to how the secondary moves when allowed to do so.
I have also done live moving tests with my side panels and clutch guard removed and watched the secondary as it moved side to side as I accelerated on an open smooth lake.
Currently I'm also running the floating secondary on a 1000 summit 152 X 2.25" lug track and it has gone over 1000 miles and still running the original belt. Hillclimbing and worrying about how hot the clutches are is a thing of the past.....
$35 US is a small price to pay, even if it saves 1 belt, it more than pays for itself.....
The way I ride, I have probably saved myself at least 5-6 belts....not to mention, all of the dust and shrapnel created by an exploding belt....

Hope this helps....

Cheers

I'm running Rob's floaters on both my sleds. I think they work great!

floater discussion

duck899 said:

thinking about getting your spacer kit.just wondering how it works exactly and install.how you had any problems with the kit.

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Rev extreme.....Here is my story....

The spacer is a piece of round aluminum that takes up the space between the outer washer and splined shaft. Because the spacer is longer than the 'space', the bolt and washer locks the spacer to the splined shaft and allows the secondary to 'float'. Before installing the spacer you must remove your secondary and also remove 1 or 2 shims (washers) between the secondary and the bearing. With the secondary re-installed and the bolt and stock outer washer tightened you should have a total side to side movement of 1/4" of the secondary.

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Now what happens is the secondary clutch will self align with the primary (which moves because of the torque) and belt wear and heat will be reduced. Its the wear on the one side of the belt that ultimatly destroys a perfectly good belt. This will happen most noticably at wide open throttle when pulling a hill. This is when I blew my first and only belt at 300 miles from new on my 800 renegade. I even took it back to the dealer to align which was a lost cause. Fortunately, they warranteed that first belt. Now, I hear that BRP does not warranty belts any more. With the spacer installed my clutch temperatures are way down after climbing a hill in the mountains. I had run the same belt for the rest of the seasons from December 2004 untill Febuary 2006 and about 3000 miles. I replaced that belt only because it was getting to the low end of the spec as measured by calipers but it showed even wear on both sides.
New belt measurement...in millimeters (metric)
View attachment 65772

Old belt measurement....after 3000 miles.
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I also think that the clutches work better when the secondary floats as they are not fighting each other against the belt when the engine torques in and back towards the bulkhead and secondary.
One of the guys who bought a spacer did a video of what happens as the engine is on and off the throttle and it is pretty evident as to how the secondary moves when allowed to do so.
I have also done live moving tests with my side panels and clutch guard removed and watched the secondary as it moved side to side as I accelerated on an open smooth lake.
Currently I'm also running the floating secondary on a 1000 summit 152 X 2.25" lug track and it has gone over 1000 miles and still running the original belt. Hillclimbing and worrying about how hot the clutches are is a thing of the past.....
$35 US is a small price to pay, even if it saves 1 belt, it more than pays for itself.....
The way I ride, I have probably saved myself at least 5-6 belts....not to mention, all of the dust and shrapnel created by an exploding belt....

Hope this helps....

Cheers
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I totally agree with YA Duck

sledsnpowder said:

Got my two kits in the mail. Can't wait to try them out!!

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Make sure you let me know how they work for you.....

duck899 said:

Got my two kits in the mail. Can't wait to try them out!!

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Make sure you let me know how they work for you.....
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Hey Duck!

I would like one of those bad boys. That is one thing I liked about the Poo's I used to run. The secondary's floated. What is the best way to get one? I am in St Alberta 2 to 3 times a week, Live out at Alberta Beach.

Are you selling them at the sled show this weekend??

Guys......Everyone who bought spacers in the last 2 weeks, all those spacers have been shipped today....
Thanks.....

Also, I have more available.....

Thanks....