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Buying my first snow mobile

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#1 ·
Hello everyone,
Sorry if this is the wrong spot to post this but my family is looking to get 2 or 3 snow mobiles for this upcoming winter.
We caught the motor sports bug with seadoos and want to keep the fun going through the winter.

We have a 96 xp (small fast fun) and a 95 gtx (more of a cruiser that can seat three.

What exact modles should I look for that would kinda be the same type? What should I expect to pay for a decent examples of these? Our budget is flexible but do not want to go higher than $4000 for two. We already have a trailer that we can transport them with
 
#4 ·
It would be great if you could find some 03 or newer rev chassis sleds in your price range, but that is probably not gonna happen. As mile9c1 said, you picked a tough year. I would think if you could find a pair of zx chassis sleds in your price range you would be doing good. Comfort-wise the newer the better. 03 was the first year of the rev chassis with its rider forward position. It truly was a break through in snowmobile handling and comfort. If you can stretch your budget a bit and find a couple of rev chassis sleds, it is definitely money well spent.
 
#5 ·
Exactly what they said. I would really try to find a 03 or newer. You will probably find your best deal on a 03 as those had the beaver tail which is less desirable (IMO). Personally I'd want an 04 and up but like stated above that will be almost impossible this season. After the ronna everyone found time to try new things and all motor sports hobbies have increased and lack of materials and labor has slowed production.
 
#7 ·
The problem is Ski-Doo sold off all old inventory to that Vintage Ski-Doo place years ago and they don't sell direct so old sleds have become a problem with parts. Not all parts but a fair amount of them and like others have said the used market is nuts right now.
 
#10 ·
I wouldn't even look at anything older than 10 years old, the last decade has seen HUGE improvements in everything. Your budget isn't even close, unfortunately. You should go rent a couple of sleds for a day and see if you like it.
I agree on renting this year possibly. Might be easier to get your hands on something but you better act quickly too with lining something up. It puts you on something new for the most part, which could spoil you, but you gotta know also if your good with something 10+ yrs old and overpaying this year otherwise. If you buy, probably a 500-600cc sled will be plenty to get you going.


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#9 ·
At your budget, you're probably looking at a ZX chassis tops.


 
#11 ·
Yeah, you won't find find an 03+ snowmobile right now at that price. Everyone will tell you to get the newest there is but If you're OK with a rougher ride and just want to get out and ride, I'd look at ZX chassis sleds, or even F-Chassis, and S-Chassis sleds. Here is what I would look for and avoid. If you don't like wrenching and just want a reliable sled, I'd stick with 500-700 cc models and avoid 800s of that era personally. I have 2 new 850's, an F-Chassis sled, and an S-Chassis sled and have ridden just about everything in between. I bought my F-chassis sled in October for $500, and the S-chassis in August for $1000. They can be found for reasonable prices and I would buy one before I would spend $300 a day renting.


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ZX Chassis: Will be the best ride and overall value. You may be spending more than $4k for 2 of them right now but they are out there.
1999-2003
Easy, reliable engines - 500 fan or liquid, 600, 700 (haven't had good luck with 800's)


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F-Chassis: Fast top end speed sleds, fun on trails but rough suspension
1994-1997
Easy, reliable engines - I'd look for a 583. I have a Formula III 600 Triple right now and they're fun but require more maintenance and tinkering. The 583 will run forever.



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S-Chassis: If you want a fun sled to do 40 miles on a Saturday morning and not break any records, these sleds are great options. Rougher ride but reliable power.
1994-1998 I think?
Easy, reliable engines - 380 fan (slower), 500 fan, 500 liquid, 670 liquid (most engines in this chassis made reliable power and lasted a long time)
 
#12 ·
To echo / expand upon what everyone else is saying...

Snowmobiles aren't like seadoos, in the sense that there has been incredible progression in technology. A modern seadoo is bigger and has a bit more power, and XP / GTX likely burn oil, but otherwise they're the same. They start, they go forward, they might even have reverse, they float on the water. When it's rough out, you get wet. Etc. Lots of nifty tricks (the "brake" system, etc), a bigger more muscular thing...but they're the same.

A modern snowmobile is so fundamentally different from a mid 90's that they're almost not the same vehicle. The seating and riding position is completely different, the engine and chassis are completely different, the suspension is completely different, and all of those things matter. Here's a quick history,ish:

~96-2000: S chassis. Old rotary valve engines are relatively bullet proof. They go pretty good in a smooth straight line, not so great elsewhere. Almost no suspension, chug gas and oil like it's going out of style, getting much harder to find parts. Critically, your legs stick straight out in front of you, with your ass on the rear of the sled. Exceptionally uncomfortable on anything but the smoothest trails, and makes handling and stability less than ideal. My first sled was a '99 and I loved it dearly, so don't get me wrong, you can still have a ton of fun if you want to dip your toe in the water. But if you even remotely like the sport, you'll want to upgrade soon. Should be able to find them for <$2k each, even with covid pricing.

99-'03: ZX Chassis. Like above, only slightly better. A bit more comfortable, a bit more suspension, slight improvements in handling, a little easier to fix up. Legs still stick straight out in front of you. The best "sit down" (read:ancient) snowmobile ever made. Should be able to find them in your budget, but will leave less money for repairs / upgrades that are inevitably needed on something of this age.

'03-'07: Rev chassis. Quite literally changed the sport forever, because you no longer sit on the rear with legs in front. Do some googling - you'll learn lots. The engines and suspensions are almost identical to the ZX (with minor improvements in later years, that are probably out of your price range), but the fact that you ride it like a bike instead of a lazy boy made that somewhat irrelevant. Still very old and uncomfortable and outdated by today's standards, but a massive improvement. Unfortunately, finding two in good condition is likely out of your budget. Crappy ones, maybe.

'08-'12: XP chassis. Took everything the Rev did, and did it miles better. Your knees aren't cramped, the suspension improved again, the engines improved dramatically. This chassis is the oldest you can go while still being on a "modern" sled that, in most cases, is at least in the same league as something brand new. Lots of rentals will be an XP as they made the budget version right up until a year or two ago. You'd be happy on these for a long time, and can likely get at least one in good condition for your budget (but not two).

'13-'17: XS Chassis. Like the XP, but with tweaks. Mostly just plastic, but Rmotion (the rear suspension that is literally magical) became the standard on this chassis, and is still the standard today. Any XS sled is fantastic, and unless you're die hard passionate, there's no need to upgrade. Until quite recently they were the latest and greatest. I owned an XP and an XS and while the chassis is nearly identical, the engine, plastics, suspension, etc made it feel like a whole new sled that really was "worth it". Likely out of your current budget, even for just 1.

'17- now: G4. The latest and greatest, and oh baby are they great!
 
#13 ·
To echo a few of these points unfortunately right now sled prices are insane. I've been looking at older smaller cc machines to pick something up for my daughter & I can't believe what garbage is out there for insane asking prices on CL, FB marketplace, etc.

The other thing I will say is that the trails aren't like they were in the 90's, now EVERYONE is on a big bore machine & beats the living sh** out of the trails. In the past it was easier to hop on vintage iron & still go have a fun day, sure they were heavier, had less suspension & you sat in the seat but now if you take that same vintage ride on trails during the weekend you're encountering 3' moguls left by every hammerhead on a big bore sled with a deep long track who feels the need to mash it to the bars at every trail junction. My point is that in the 90's we all rode similar sleds with less hp, smaller/shorter tracks & the average sled size was 600-700cc. Now it's all 800's, 850's with 136/137/146 etc tracks with at least 1.5 lugs which absolutely destroys trail conditions in our typical low snow years. For perspective I'm referring to my trails in NH or Maine.

Again, I'm not saying older S or ZX chassis sleds are no good because they are but when everyone else on the trails is riding modern rigs with better suspension traveling at higher speeds it changes what you encounter on the trail with your older rig & getting the snot pounded out of you all day isn't as fun as you once thought it was.
 
#15 ·
Nothing wrong with starting out on old iron. I started out 8 years ago on a 94 I got cheap and modified to make more comfortable. Problem is, as mentioned above, you'll spend more for less this year. If you can spend more, do it and get something at least in the Rev Chassis. Easier to handle, easier on the back.
 
#18 ·
^ Agreed, that looks like a good one.

Here's some loaded out, low mile S-chassis sleds outside of MSP. Could shoot him $3,500 for just the sleds:

 
#20 ·
Thank you all for the replies. I now know which ones to avoid and pricing wise. I think I am going to aim for ZX chasis on advice from a few of you and just try to get a good deal. I don't want to spend big bucks and then decide I don't like it. The Goal is just to tide us over until we can get out on the water.