I'll buy the 800R in a any variety, I'd prefer it wasn't SDI, love my P TEK just would like 10-12 more HP to start with.
800R SDI
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I marked my calendar!!!!
Acutally the best way to do it if you can swing it (liquid assets) is to get a new sled every year. Sounds spendy but it's not that bad really. This way you always have a sled that's just one year old to sell to help pay for the new one. I used to do this and it would cost me usually between 2-3K each year. But that's including tax, lic, and accessories including a full set of new matching gear. I would order the sled in the spring, ride it one year, and sell it the next fall at Haydays. I could usually get between 1,000-1,500 less than I paid for it. Of-course that's not counting tax, lic, & acc. And that was back when a new top of the line sled cost about 6-7K!!! The best I ever did was on a 97 EXT Triple, It retailed for like 6,500, I paid 5,400 and sold it the next fall with 900 miles on it for an even 5K. I used to say you can buy a new sled for 6 and sell it for 4 or buy a used sled for 3 and sell it for 1. They both cost the same, 2K, it's just having the money tied up.
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Acutally the best way to do it if you can swing it (liquid assets) is to get a new sled every year. Sounds spendy but it's not that bad really. This way you always have a sled that's just one year old to sell to help pay for the new one. I used to do this and it would cost me usually between 2-3K each year. But that's including tax, lic, and accessories including a full set of new matching gear. I would order the sled in the spring, ride it one year, and sell it the next fall at Haydays. I could usually get between 1,000-1,500 less than I paid for it. Of-course that's not counting tax, lic, & acc. And that was back when a new top of the line sled cost about 6-7K!!! The best I ever did was on a 97 EXT Triple, It retailed for like 6,500, I paid 5,400 and sold it the next fall with 900 miles on it for an even 5K. I used to say you can buy a new sled for 6 and sell it for 4 or buy a used sled for 3 and sell it for 1. They both cost the same, 2K, it's just having the money tied up.
Nobody has answered the original question, what do you guys think about this new scooter having the SDI bugs worked out or not???
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If the new 07 re-map for the 1000's work I'll take the plunge. If not and the new 800 does have SDI I'll buy another brand.Nobody has answered the original question, what do you guys think about this new scooter having the SDI bugs worked out or not???![]()
My guess is there will be no SDI in the 800R. I don't see the point, the Powertek is EPA compliant, works very well, & the cost to benefit factor is nil.
And another thing, I also find it very unlikely that Doo will put more developement cost into a motor a year after a limted release. It would be just plain dumb.
If the new 07 re-map for the 1000's work I'll take the plunge. If not and the new 800 does have SDI I'll buy another brand.Nobody has answered the original question, what do you guys think about this new scooter having the SDI bugs worked out or not???![]()
My guess is there will be no SDI in the 800R. I don't see the point, the Powertek is EPA compliant, works very well, & the cost to benefit factor is nil.
And another thing, I also find it very unlikely that Doo will put more developement cost into a motor a year after a limted release. It would be just plain dumb.
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Supertrax seems to think that the liquid cooled casses are there for a reason (SDI). And my dealer told me that a "very reliable source" (Doo rep maybe???) told him that the 800R in it's current Summit form will not find it's way into a 121" sled. He said that they were coming with either SDI or DI for either 08 or 09.
If the new 07 re-map for the 1000's work I'll take the plunge. If not and the new 800 does have SDI I'll buy another brand.Nobody has answered the original question, what do you guys think about this new scooter having the SDI bugs worked out or not???![]()
My guess is there will be no SDI in the 800R. I don't see the point, the Powertek is EPA compliant, works very well, & the cost to benefit factor is nil.
And another thing, I also find it very unlikely that Doo will put more developement cost into a motor a year after a limted release. It would be just plain dumb.
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Supertrax seems to think that the liquid cooled casses are there for a reason (SDI). And my dealer told me that a "very reliable source" (Doo rep maybe???) told him that the 800R in it's current Summit form will not find it's way into a 121" sled. He said that they were coming with either SDI or DI for either 08 or 09.
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You can count on about 10% of what Supertrax writes in their rumors section actually coming true, they're step above SnoGoer in my book. Useless commentary but I like looking at the pictures when it's warm outside.
I can guarantee you that your dealer doesn't know anymore than you or I, they never do regardless of what they say. Who knows for sure if the 800R in it's current form will make it to a flatllander sled, it only makes sense that it will. The 800HO was released in the Summit before it was put into the 04 MXZ's. They didn't develop a motor just for the Summit, only a fool would believe that to be possible. And to partially engineer an engine for a single model for one year and change it the following year makes no sense, it's cost prohibitive. It's really common sense stuff.
How long have you heard that the SDI was coming on the 800? Been a rumor since mid 04.
DI in 09 would make sense with the latest round of EPA requirements coming for 2010.
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How about a 500ssr
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If the new 07 re-map for the 1000's work I'll take the plunge. If not and the new 800 does have SDI I'll buy another brand.Nobody has answered the original question, what do you guys think about this new scooter having the SDI bugs worked out or not???![]()
My guess is there will be no SDI in the 800R. I don't see the point, the Powertek is EPA compliant, works very well, & the cost to benefit factor is nil.
And another thing, I also find it very unlikely that Doo will put more developement cost into a motor a year after a limted release. It would be just plain dumb.
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Supertrax seems to think that the liquid cooled casses are there for a reason (SDI). And my dealer told me that a "very reliable source" (Doo rep maybe???) told him that the 800R in it's current Summit form will not find it's way into a 121" sled. He said that they were coming with either SDI or DI for either 08 or 09.
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You can count on about 10% of what Supertrax writes in their rumors section actually coming true, they're step above SnoGoer in my book. Useless commentary but I like looking at the pictures when it's warm outside.
I can guarantee you that your dealer doesn't know anymore than you or I, they never do regardless of what they say. Who knows for sure if the 800R in it's current form will make it to a flatllander sled, it only makes sense that it will. The 800HO was released in the Summit before it was put into the 04 MXZ's. They didn't develop a motor just for the Summit, only a fool would believe that to be possible. And to partially engineer an engine for a single model for one year and change it the following year makes no sense, it's cost prohibitive. It's really common sense stuff.
How long have you heard that the SDI was coming on the 800? Been a rumor since mid 04.
DI in 09 would make sense with the latest round of EPA requirements coming for 2010.
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I agree. That's what I was thinking too. That's exactly what Doo did back in 03 & 04 with the original 800 HO. I told my dealer I planned on ordering one this spring. That's when he told me that they were'nt going to build it. He said it would be a SDI or DI and come out in 08 or 09. I sure hope you're right cuz I want one and I don't want the SDI either with all the problems they've had on the Machs. Guess we'll just have to wait till March to find out. In the mean time happy
I will keep buying carbed motors until they quit making them, or until I can afford the computer that lets me re-map the SDI program myself. I would like to get a 1000, but there is no carburated 1000, (and I can't afford it...) If it came to the same displacement motor carbed or SDI, I would always buy carbed. I do think the liquid cooled case is a great idea, but I do not like having a computer which I can't reprogram on my own controlling my fuel/air mixture. The reason they make it hard for you to reprogram the mixture by yourself is not because they don't want you to blow it up, it's because once you reprogram it to run properly (I.E. so it won't blow up), it will not pass emissions.Nobody has answered the original question, what do you guys think about this new scooter having the SDI bugs worked out or not???![]()
Back in the old days, they used to jet rich from the factory to keep you from blowing up, and then if you leaned it out a bit to go faster they would try to void your warantee. Now days they run it lean to pass emissions, and the computer keeps you from messing with it, but the epa would rather force them to sell a motor that eats rings and blows up than let you richen it up a bit to make it last longer....
If the carbed R has a good first year I'll take a Renegade X immediately.
If it comes as an SDI or DI, I'll wait for the free consumer R & D to have a year at it first. I'd rather give Bill Cudney some $$ and get the 06 hopped up and crack 10,000 miles with it.
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If it comes as an SDI or DI, I'll wait for the free consumer R & D to have a year at it first. I'd rather give Bill Cudney some $$ and get the 06 hopped up and crack 10,000 miles with it.
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