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How much longer will Yamaha even be in the sled business?
2024 yamaha
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I thought I read on hcs that AC and Yammi have signed a new 7 year agreement.
this is the real thing. the second Cat says "nah. we'll go our own way." there will be no more Yamaha Snowmobile Division.
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You mean when they sucked?
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Sad but true.
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The Yamaha spring order program opened at 2:00PM today. I jumped on their website at 2:30 and most of the sleds were already sold out.
I would love to know the actual number of units Cat produces for Yamaha for 2024.
I would love to know the actual number of units Cat produces for Yamaha for 2024.
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i actully feel bad for yamaha this season . its nothing but negative this year.
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Obviously, people are, or they wouldn't be sold out. At least they have different colors and graphics. Ski doo has the same exact colors this year as last. Or is the black or gray/silver a different shade?
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^^^ I don't think so. They're "sold out" because they only buy a few thousand from Cat.
Pull your head out of the sand and look at the numbers.
The latest sales numbers ('22) show overall world wide sales at 130,644.
Considering Yammi has a 5% market share that's a whooping 6,533 units - total.
Now look at Doo, with over 60% market share, that's over 78,398 units total.
I'll say it again, Doo sells more sleds a month than Yammi sells in an entire year - and the numbers prove that.
Here's a thought - Doo is now selling a few Cats too, I wonder if Doo is selling as many Cats as Yammi is. 🤣
Saying "Yammi sold out" is like having puppy's. A dog has a litter of 10 puppy's - 4 yellow, 3 brown, 2 white, and 1 black.
The first 2 people take yellows pups.
The 3rd person takes a brown pup.
The 4th person takes a white pup.
The 5th person takes a black one so now you're out of black puppies. Must be people standing in line for black puppies then, right?
That's the logic you're using.
So one more time, put the shovel down, you can't dig your way out.
Pull your head out of the sand and look at the numbers.
The latest sales numbers ('22) show overall world wide sales at 130,644.
Considering Yammi has a 5% market share that's a whooping 6,533 units - total.
Now look at Doo, with over 60% market share, that's over 78,398 units total.
I'll say it again, Doo sells more sleds a month than Yammi sells in an entire year - and the numbers prove that.
Here's a thought - Doo is now selling a few Cats too, I wonder if Doo is selling as many Cats as Yammi is. 🤣
Saying "Yammi sold out" is like having puppy's. A dog has a litter of 10 puppy's - 4 yellow, 3 brown, 2 white, and 1 black.
The first 2 people take yellows pups.
The 3rd person takes a brown pup.
The 4th person takes a white pup.
The 5th person takes a black one so now you're out of black puppies. Must be people standing in line for black puppies then, right?
That's the logic you're using.
So one more time, put the shovel down, you can't dig your way out.
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I don't know why you get so worked up about it. Yamaha sold out. If you want to qualify it to make yourself feel better, go for it. I'm not sure what "hole" you think that I'm digging. Everything I've stated has been facts. I'm glad Yamaha is still selling snowmobiles. They sold every srx they can produce. Yamaha must be happy with that otherwise they wouldn't do it. It's great for everyone.^^^ I don't think so. They're "sold out" because they only buy a few thousand from Cat.
Pull your head out of the sand and look at the numbers.
The latest sales numbers ('22) show overall world wide sales at 130,644.
Considering Yammi has a 5% market share that's a whooping 6,533 units - total.
Now look at Doo, with over 60% market share, that's over 78,398 units total.
I'll say it again, Doo sells more sleds a month than Yammi sells in an entire year - and the numbers prove that.
Here's a thought - Doo is now selling a few Cats too, I wonder if Doo is selling as many Cats as Yammi is.
Saying "Yammi sold out" is like having puppy's. A dog has a litter of 10 puppy's - 4 yellow, 3 brown, 2 white, and 1 black.
The first 2 people take yellows pups.
The 3rd person takes a brown pup.
The 4th person takes a white pup.
The 5th person takes a black one so now you're out of black puppies. Must be people standing in line for black puppies then, right?
That's the logic you're using.
So one more time, put the shovel down, you can't dig your way out.
Is it not true that the 24 ski doos are practically the same colors as last year? Yamaha has had cool retro graphics the past few years?
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Like when Yamaha sidewinder turbo sleds are blowing tracks right off due to bad adjusters? I met a guy who blew one off in the mountains of Maine and wasn't he mad. To me it looked like a cheap design and failed. Track shot right off snapped. Adjusters all lose and messed up. Artic cat and yamaha both designing this or just yamaha?
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The Yamaha 998 motor is the best/most powerful/dependable motor of any manufacturer. Period. The Cat chassis is their biggest downfall.Because when you have nothing new to offer you have lots of time to work on colors.
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Is that a known issue or a one-off fluke? Ive personally havent seen that issue on a cat or a yamaha. I saw a 2023 xrs on the trail with a broken chaincase. Cheap design or user error? See how that works?
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Kind of a known issue rumor has it. The guy who had his track fall off seemed to think he was not the only one. I know next to nothing about sidewinders however.
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The cat chassis has had gear/driveline issues for years. The fixes for these flaws are fairly inexpensive.
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I love snowmobiles. I'm not brand loyal or go out of my way to put down someone elses choice in type/brand. Others seem to enjoy bashing brands to make them feel better about themselves. NO brand is without issues. It's just that we happen to play down such issues when they are "our brand."
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