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Hey guys, so I been looking at my friends sled for him, it has an issue in the starter circuit somewhere. It worked at first then became intermittent. So I had him buy an aftermarket relay. Threw it in,and it started electrically but everything else was dead. Headlights,taillight, gauges. Put thr old relay back in it and everything came back to life but still no electric start. Put a new oem skidoo relay in it and everything works but still no starter. This tells me my battery,starter,and solenoid and switch is good. Wtf?? Any input is appreciated. Thanks!
 

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I don't think that's it. He bought the sled used for this season. Worked fine when he picked it up. As soon as he got home with it,it stopped working. When I swapped the one relay, it works every time. But everything else is dead. Put the original relay in it, and everything works fine minus the starter. Does the starting circuit go through the ecu?
 

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You can use a volt meter to see how much voltage is on the solenoid coil. There are two smaller wires that serve to switch the coil, one Black and one Red with Green stripe. Check the voltage on the RD/GN when pressing the Start/RER switch.
 

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I just realized you have a 2009, so I'm not sure the wire colour is right, but the idea is the same.
 

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Ok....thanks! And if I have power to that wire? Also, reverse works when the machine is running. So I know my switch is good
 

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Just throwing out ideas here but maybe your aftermarket starter relay is drawing so much load that it is dropping out your main relay.
 

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I agree!!!!! It has a pull start so it will run. It's a kids sled so he wants electric start. Spoiled kids these days. Hahaha...my xrs has no e start and the reverse button zip tied to the bars...now that's a sled!
 

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I'm having the exact same issue with my '08 500ss MXZ.

Starts fine on the rope. Nothing with the start button. When running the start/RER switch works properly, just no start.

Battery is new. If I jump the starter relay it starts right up on the starter...

Is the relay you are referring to the one right by the battery on the main harness?
 

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I'm having the exact same issue with my '08 500ss MXZ.

Starts fine on the rope. Nothing with the start button. When running the start/RER switch works properly, just no start.

Battery is new. If I jump the starter relay it starts right up on the starter...

Is the relay you are referring to the one right by the battery on the main harness?
That is the starter solenoid you are jumping.

The starter relay is under the fuse cover. It closes to provide current to the coil in the starter solenoid.

One or the other is bad. It sounds like you are bypassing the starter solenoid.

You can test the solenoid by applying battery volts to the small wire. It should engage the solenoid and power the starter.
 

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So I found the problem....a 30 amp fuse. And yes, I checked it first. I even took it out,inspected it, and ohm'ed it. Tested good. I swapped it with another one, and it started right up. Took the original 30 amp fuse and cleaned it up with a wire brush and it works perfect now. And no signs of corrosion either. Weird
 

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So I found the problem....a 30 amp fuse. And yes, I checked it first. I even took it out,inspected it, and ohm'ed it. Tested good. I swapped it with another one, and it started right up. Took the original 30 amp fuse and cleaned it up with a wire brush and it works perfect now. And no signs of corrosion either. Weird
I have stated before these fuses crack inside the plastic housing along the filament! They will even test good on a multimeter, but when sled shakes while running they may open up a tinny bit causing a no start situation.

One could buy a 30amp circuit breaker and remove that fuse, and replace it with a circuit breaker, that way never be left stranded by a no start.

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Yes, my bad. I jumped the Solenoid, not the relay.

I replaced all of the fuses with new. Cleaned fuse sockets with contact cleaner and replaced them again with no joy.

Just had the sled out for a short 50 mile run. I took my little jumper wire and glad I did. Shut down at a trail stop and sled wouldn't start after several pulls. While pulling, there was no reaction from the gage cluster or headlamp. Jumped the solenoid again and it eventually started after some cranking.

Made a second stop at a gas station and it started on the first pull. One last stop at another trail head and needed to jump the solenoid again.

Does this still sound like the starter "relay"? When you hit the starter button, should I be able to hear/feel the relay (right near the solinoid?) click?
 
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