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#1 2Fast-4U

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Posted 12 March 2021 - 09:28 PM

I am currently riding a 2020 Backcountry XRS 154 with a 2 1/2" track that I ride off trail 85% of the time and I have enjoyed it so much that I want to add a 165 to my stable for 100% Backcountry/Mountain riding.  I have wanted to go the Freeride route, mostly because of the front shock package, but since I have been waiting on a color that I like, and may never get, and I can get the Summit Expert in the Black, I was thinking it was time to consider a Summit.  I want to get a second sled that will be exclusively for trips out West, Mt. Valin and maybe the Chic Choc's, thus the desire to get a 165.

 

I am headed out West to give my 154 a workout in 3 weeks, but will not have time to snow check a 165 after I get back, thus I am looking for some input on whether to snow check the Black Summit or wait another year for the possibility of a Freeride color I may like.  I am looking for some real world input or reasons as to why I should consider the Summit vs. the Freeride and not be hung up on the Freeride's shock package as my deciding factor.  Since in reality, I could get a comparable shock for the Summit if really needed, I thought the Summit was worth considering.  It seems there are advantages with a Summit, like less weight and the new narrower front end, so I don't want to overlook the Summit, especially since I can get it in Black, if there compelling reasons to get a Summit over a Freeride.

 

Thanks in advance for the input.



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Posted 12 March 2021 - 10:27 PM

I have a feeling 2023 will be exciting for team Doo.
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Posted 13 March 2021 - 09:10 AM

Either one is going to good.

If black is your color then may have already decided


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2019 Summit X G4 850 E-tec 175"

2018 Summit X G4 850 E-tec 175"

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Posted 13 March 2021 - 11:39 AM

Either one is going to good.

If black is your color then may have already decided
 

 

With my desire to have Black & something, or 2 years ago blue Freeride, but with Turbo, I don't want to be narrow sided and not consider the Summit.  Just trying to understand any negatives or things I am giving by up not getting a Freeride other than the obvious shocks and weight.



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Posted 13 March 2021 - 03:31 PM

I always buy Freeride’s for the shocks and extra bracing, but I was seriously considering getting a summit this year for narrow front end and liked the color better. The summit shocks are not that bad. I ended up getting Freeride mainly for resale, I already got a guy who wants it when I’m done with it

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Posted 13 March 2021 - 07:31 PM

Summit = narrower front end

 

Freeride = better shocks

 

For 2022 I'd pick the Summit.



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Posted 13 March 2021 - 11:02 PM

Summit = narrower front end
 
Freeride = better shocks
 
For 2022 I'd pick the Summit.


Especially since I can get Black and get new front shocks if I want. I Doo like the shocks on my BCXRS and I don’t have any additional bracing than a Summit would have so I am thinking it is a comparable choice from that perspective and would be great for its purpose. I have had no concern with my current chassis to surely need a Freeride. It seems that other than the shocks and bracing, wherever that may be, the Summit is a better buy, less expensive and the bonus is I can get black. Then go get some good aftermarket front shocks and have the sled I want.

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Posted 20 March 2021 - 08:44 PM

Well I pulled the trigger and snow checked a Black Summit 165 Turbo. I am pretty excited to get it and get started with accessories. I am going to put the $1000 in accessories cash towards the New Fox 1.5 Zero Lightweight shocks. Add a Zollinger Rear arm bracket, some rail braces and a T-Motion lockout from Val at Mainway Solutions, iBackshift Clutch Kit from Joey and she’ll be ready to ride! I’m tempted to add a TKI Belt Drive as well.

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Posted 21 March 2021 - 10:16 AM

^ Sweet ! I was tempted to hit the Lynx up for 2022, but I'm gonna hang on to my '18 another year and see what 23 brings (Hopefully a Boondocker RE !)

Belt drive is pretty sweet - I run a Specialty Motorsports SyncroDrive on mine and think it's pretty nice.


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Posted 25 March 2021 - 01:58 PM

I was just in QC last weekend with 8 riders... all different sleds. Within the first 2 hours, we had a Poo down with the new QD2 belt drive let go. Didn't have a spare belt, and had to tow it out after getting it down some steep and deep TIGHT treed terrain with no brakes (Polaris design). Later that day, had the top gear come off a 2019 Cat with a new Specialty Motorsports drive belt that was just installed... top gear loosened up and wore through the oil reservoir before he knew anything was wrong. Fixed it up that night, and two days later, had the top gear come off again and chew up the shaft. Poor design for the Cats was the problem, but sure made me think my chaincase was a pretty reliable. If only I could keep from bending brand new A arms... 



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Posted 26 March 2021 - 01:10 PM

considered a belt drive for a long while but there's too many reports of people saying there's no perceptible change in performance to justify the price. i get the fact that when a chain goes it will render the sled unusable but how often does that happen? i ended up buying the protector kit from RPM Composites. 







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