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[MNmaverick90]

Obviously the 900 is faster top end but any other noticeable differences? Maintenance, gas mileage, acceleration?

Between a 900r turbo gade or an 850 mxz. 95 percent trail riding in MN.

Edited by MNmaverick90, 22 February 2021 - 01:14 PM.

[Moosestache]

The 900r will be quicker, faster, heavier. Probably have much better long term reliability. Beyond that who knows.


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[taylorj]

Oh boy... this one has been asked a few times.

I have both. For me I prefer my 900T for cruising and more open trail running. 850 for the tighter stuff and more playing around. Mileage is very close, maintenance about the same unless you plan on keeping a long time then 2 stroke rebuild might come into play. I still find buying oil for the 2 stroke is more than changing the oil once a year in the 900T. 900T is heavier and less playful than the 850 for sure. But both can be driven in any trail situation and have a blast on either.

Edited by taylorj, 22 February 2021 - 04:06 PM.

[Moosestache]

He asked about the 900 t r though.  Which will be the 900t on steroids.

[taylorj]

He asked about the 900 t r though. Which will be the 900t on steroids.

My 900T is on steroids. How is anyone going to be able to compare to the 900TR? Have you riden one?

[MNmaverick90]

My 900T is on steroids. How is anyone going to be able to compare to the 900TR? Have you riden one?

Yessir, wondering if they fixed the throttle. The negative reviews I’ve found have been the electronic throttle on the 900t. Curious if that will be fixed with the r.

[moparman7367]

Or save some money and  buy a ole couch 1200  and beat them both.... excellent gas mileage, easy to maintain and  tough to beat in the reliability depart   

[Moosestache]

Well since the 900tr has 300hp more than the 900 t, it should perform more or less like all the tuned 900t's that are out there.  It will be faster, quicker, and heavier than the 850. So, no I haven't driven one yet, however the magazine articles I read echoed my statements.  As far as gas mileage goes, I would imagine it will be a little less than the 900t, which is similar to the 850.  However, people can't even agree on the mileage they currently get on either sled, so I am not sure how much faith I would put in people's mpg's   

[taylorj]

Yessir, wondering if they fixed the throttle. The negative reviews I’ve found have been the electronic throttle on the 900t. Curious if that will be fixed with the r.

That's a good question. Hopefully we'll get some reviews from people that are driving the prototypes that are out there now.

[CAPT ED]

For fast trail and lake riding 900 turbo , they sit nice on trail, and don't use expensive 2stroke oil !   

[eschatts]

I have a 1200 and people talk about that throttle thing.  I think it is a bunch of BS.  Is there a tad bit of hestitation??  maybe, but that should not be a deciding factor for somebody.  To me the deciding factor is if the extra 30 pounds is worth it to you.  And the 4 stroke is going to last longer.... probably way longer.  Also with the weight somebody said to be maybe I should lose 30 pounds!!!  And that is about the truth.  LOL

[600 sdi rever]

Oh boy... this one has been asked a few times.

I have both. For me I prefer my 900T for cruising and more open trail running. 850 for the tighter stuff and more playing around. Mileage is very close, maintenance about the same unless you plan on keeping a long time then 2 stroke rebuild might come into play. I still find buying oil for the 2 stroke is more than changing the oil once a year in the 900T. 900T is heavier and less playful than the 850 for sure. But both can be drive in any trail situation and have a blast on them.

I agree with this 100%

[Rotax_Kid]

I spent a decent amount of time on both a good tuned 850 and a 900T this past week. You need to ride both to decide for yourself. They are very different animals. The power of the 900 os so smooth and well put together. The 850 feels more raw, yet lively for lack of better words. I thought people were overstating the throttle feel of the 900T, but it definately takes a bit to get used to. You need to be a bit smoother with the throttle vs the 850. Cross country, where fields got a bit rough, the throttle was a bit hard to get used to.

If all I rode were trails, I'd probably favor the smoothness of the 900T, but you really need to try both if you can.

[Ski Dog]

I spent a decent amount of time on both a good tuned 850 and a 900T this past week. You need to ride both to decide for yourself. They are very different animals. The power of the 900 os so smooth and well put together. The 850 feels more raw, yet lively for lack of better words. I thought people were overstating the throttle feel of the 900T, but it definately takes a bit to get used to. You need to be a bit smoother with the throttle vs the 850. Cross country, where fields got a bit rough, the throttle was a bit hard to get used to.

If all I rode were trails, I'd probably favor the smoothness of the 900T, but you really need to try both if you can.

Well said. It took me a good full day of riding to get used to the throttle on my '19 900t. To be honest, the first few hours l hated it and had buyers remorse to some degree but after l got used to it it's a non-issue and have grown to like it. Everyone that rides mine doesn't like the throttle at first either, just like l didn't.

I never say never but l honestly don't think l could go back to a 2-stroke again for the kind of riding l do. The 850 is a great engine but l like the swing machine-like running quality the 4-stroke provides.

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Edited by Ski Dog, 22 February 2021 - 05:33 PM.

[tjmaxx]

Both are great but I'm on my second 900t and really like them. I've tuned both mine and it really wakes them up. I imagine the 900tr will be like a tuned current 900t and I'm sure the aftermarket tuners will push them even further. If the tuners get 230+ hp out of the 900tr with just a flash tune I'll likely upgrade next year.