1996 Touring LE Electrical Issue
Posted 22 February 2021 - 11:45 AM
My 1996 touring le has a electrical issue that having a hard time figuring out. I have replaced the battery, stator and the voltage regulator, also have removed the main harness under the engine and inspected it for any signs of shorts. The seat has been removed to inspect the wiring to the tail light nothing found anywhere. The persistent dim lighting remains with accessory circuits unplugged. I suspect the problem may be in the connections of the stator plugs themselves. Has anyone got a specific wiring diagram for this model? My stator has yellow, yellow/black, green and white wires coming out. Red/white wire from pickup The engine starts and runs great but this lighting issue is crazy. I have a service manual that is supposed to cover this model but the wiring diagrams are not right.
Thanks any help would be much appreciated.
Posted 22 February 2021 - 10:39 PM
Welcome. You didn't indicate if the issue is just on idle or always? Yellow/YellowBlk is your lighting circuit and it is AC not DC. When measured with a volt meter it can register up to 16 or 17v. If this is happening only on idle, you need to ensure your idle speed is adequate.
Posted 22 February 2021 - 11:03 PM
Posted 22 February 2021 - 11:08 PM
Double checked my connections at the first plug off the stator as per manual received from David H. My main harness plug was never changed only the plug on the stator wires had to been reinstalled, they all look ok. The lights flicker at idle when I speed the engine up they go very dim almost totally out. The headlight comes back to look most normal when the ignition key is turned off. The headlight will stay good until the engine quits turning. I'm lost as to know where the problem actually is.
I would measure the yellow/yellowBlk at the first plug out of the stator. Use a volt meter, set on AC and see what it reads on idle and as you spool up.
Posted 22 February 2021 - 11:56 PM
Posted 23 February 2021 - 12:49 AM
The idle AC voltage is high and 30 VAC is also high.
My 97 MHZ was putting out 16 VAC at 1900 rpm idle an 45 volts AC at 4000 + rpm.
These voltages were enough to burn out all bulbs on the sled.
Is this snowmachine electric start?
Posted 23 February 2021 - 01:10 AM
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Posted 23 February 2021 - 01:34 PM
Your previous statement
The headlight comes back to look most normal when the ignition key is turned off. The headlight will stay good until the engine quits turning. I'm lost as to know where the problem actually is.
This often is an indication of an electronic device issue. Once the rpm's drop then internally a device stops being able to function in it's appropriate range and momentarily the lights work or seem to work. Can you put a volt meter on a headlight socket and see what Voltage you read at idle and what rpm that idle is, also when the rpm's are dropping after shutoff what voltage do your see when the headlights are bright?
Posted 23 February 2021 - 01:58 PM
Posted 23 February 2021 - 03:19 PM
What are you getting for dc volts at the battery when its running
Posted 23 February 2021 - 07:53 PM
Posted 23 February 2021 - 09:19 PM
A fully charged battery (lead acid secondary type/what you have) is 12.8 volts.
11.2 volts is a Way dead battery, yes the battery should only be seeing DC in this case only
a rectified AC voltage but DC it is.
There Are people here that have much more experience on these issues than I do.
For my guess, either your vreg is bad Or it is being dragged down by an unintentional connection
between the two grounds for you machine. I expect there is a separate ground for the DC battery charging
circuit and the AC accessories circuit. This ground may not be separate right now. In terms of background
did you purchase this machine with this issue? If not what were/are the circumstances around the appearance of
EDIT: I checked the manual for my 98 Skidoo and there is specific mention to keep the two circuits AC and DC separate from each other. Anyone here able to elaborate upon where an unintentional connection between the two circuits might occur? Remembering this is my guess at the issue, not a pronunciation of fact. : -)
Edited by snow n go, 23 February 2021 - 09:28 PM.
Posted 23 February 2021 - 10:27 PM
Posted Yesterday, 12:54 AM
Does the electric start work?
yes.. the black and red is dc out of the vr
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