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#1 Ski-B

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Posted 11 January 2021 - 10:00 PM

Just something that is on my mind.

 

Curious if anyone has run these two sleds side by side... stock vs stock to see how they go?


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Posted 11 January 2021 - 10:18 PM

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Posted 11 January 2021 - 11:27 PM

In 1500ft? 1000ft? 660? Shorter you go the slower the mach.
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Posted 12 January 2021 - 07:01 AM

Now throw in 3 bumps bigger than 6" and there is no point in even running it.

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The XP was the most fun sled ever made - but I liked my XR more. The 850 takes it to a whole different level. 

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Posted 12 January 2021 - 10:09 AM

I have both. 18 Renegade and 05 maxh z. My 850 just feels snappy and quicker/more fun most places till u find a long flat straight away and the mach shines. The maxh is plenty snappy but traction can play a factor but I doo love her.

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Posted 12 January 2021 - 11:03 AM

I have both. 18 Renegade and 05 maxh z. My 850 just feels snappy and quicker/more fun most places till u find a long flat straight away and the mach shines. The maxh is plenty snappy but traction can play a factor but I doo love her.


Oh snap I think that means you up. We are just keyboard racing here you can actually do this. Assuming they are both stock. A clutched 850 I would assume would walk a mach same with an 800r.
2010.5 800x with rmotion and QA, reeds clutching, 2ply with Triggers. The hole shot King. True stock class
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Posted 12 January 2021 - 11:07 AM

There’s no 800 or 850 that’s going to run 120-125 mph stock like the 1000 that’s a promise

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Posted 12 January 2021 - 11:09 AM

There’s no 800 or 850 that’s going to run 120-125 mph stock like the 1000 that’s a promise


Maybe but in 1000ft stock?
2010.5 800x with rmotion and QA, reeds clutching, 2ply with Triggers. The hole shot King. True stock class
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Posted 12 January 2021 - 11:25 AM

Maybe some more guys from the Mach Z 1000 forum will chime in, I know there are a few guys over there that own both..... 



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Posted 12 January 2021 - 11:51 AM


I had a good running 01, MXZ 700 and I got a chance to line up with Mach Z 1000. That thing put a hurtin on me. It killed me out of the hole and just kept going. The Mach Z 1000 is legendary.

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Posted 12 January 2021 - 12:09 PM

Oh do I get to be the first to say it???

 

If the '05-'07 mach doesnt blow up before the finish line...         it should own the 850 in top speed and (possibly) acceleration. Traction is a major factor and the 850s are usually clutched pretty good stock. 



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Posted 12 January 2021 - 12:31 PM

Just something that is on my mind.

 

Curious if anyone has run these two sleds side by side... stock vs stock to see how they go?

 

What kind of terrain are we talking?  Running flat across Lake Woebegone, of course the Mach wins every time.  Clearly a no-brainer, even for someone like myself with a craniotomy.  :rolleyes:

 

 

 

Up here at 11,000 ft?...  

 

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No way.  Hell, even my stock '14 Summit 600 E-TEC will run circles around that porker in the mountains...

 

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Posted 12 January 2021 - 12:37 PM

Ok so at what point will the stock mach pass a stock 850? Over 1000ft? I'm taking hard packing snow or ice flat for miles. Even with the lazy clutching of the 850 I can't see the mach winning in under 1000ft. But its got the hp and I really haven't seen a stock one drag in 10+ years. Modded sure but stock... they all blow up lol
2010.5 800x with rmotion and QA, reeds clutching, 2ply with Triggers. The hole shot King. True stock class
1991 Indy Trail, left for dead resurrected as the Retro Indy trail. IQ seat, LED tail, rebuild motor, Skandic skis, sc3, big wheel, ripsaw 1.25.
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Posted 12 January 2021 - 01:04 PM

I’ve had probably 5 Mach z1000s,my brother has a new 850,we haven’t been together yet to line them up,but traction will be the key to it,Machzs have always been made to run on a flat smooth surface, and if you guys research the Mach z1000 motor the 850 motor has a lot of similarities,hate to break the news to you

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Posted 12 January 2021 - 01:38 PM

I’ve had probably 5 Mach z1000s,my brother has a new 850,we haven’t been together yet to line them up,but traction will be the key to it,Machzs have always been made to run on a flat smooth surface, and if you guys research the Mach z1000 motor the 850 motor has a lot of similarities,hate to break the news to you


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2010.5 800x with rmotion and QA, reeds clutching, 2ply with Triggers. The hole shot King. True stock class
1991 Indy Trail, left for dead resurrected as the Retro Indy trail. IQ seat, LED tail, rebuild motor, Skandic skis, sc3, big wheel, ripsaw 1.25.
1973 Elan 250 Twin, VM32 carb, new track, 42 mph on speedo, without a tail wind.




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