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#1 SkidooShredder

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Posted 30 November 2020 - 10:17 AM

Hey guys,

 

Wondering if anyone has had any experience with the VForce3 reeds for the 800 etec's. I'm looking to get a set for my 2015 renegade XRS, just wanted to get general feedback and are they worth it? Want can you expect performance wise?

 

VForce3 Reeds Model: V3122R-873K-2

 

 

Thanks in advance!

 

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Posted 30 November 2020 - 10:22 AM

thought my '12 800 had a little better response but otherwise not noticeable. changed mine at 2500 miles while the piston update was being done. the stockers were already showing some wear. Good luck !



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Posted 30 November 2020 - 06:08 PM

They greatly improved the stock reeds on the 800 etec in 2014 and newer.  You can probably find some new ones on ebay for cheap.  



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Posted 02 December 2020 - 04:32 PM

I've got a 2016 800 E-Tec XRS and got 17000 Mi out of my stockers! Only two of them had slight tatters at the tip. I replaced them with OEM this summer. I think because they see no fuel and 100% oil they last and last. I've got a discount and they still cost $270. But for me the peace of mind is worth it.

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Posted 02 December 2020 - 08:47 PM

I've got a 2016 800 E-Tec XRS and got 17000 Mi out of my stockers! Only two of them had slight tatters at the tip. I replaced them with OEM this summer. I think because they see no fuel and 100% oil they last and last. I've got a discount and they still cost $270. But for me the peace of mind is worth it.

 
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Posted 03 December 2020 - 11:55 AM

I had 13,000 miles on original motor. It ran like new. I had a stator failure that I kind of helped happen because I was at the end of my 4-year warranty. Mechanic said this caused a lean condition with one of the injectors which caused it to burn down. I got to see inside the motor at the shop and the cylinder that didn't melt look brand new. I think the 100% oil in the bottom end really makes them last. Repack PTO bearing every 3000 with isoflex. Now I have 4000 MI on warranty remanufactured short black. Oh yeah always ran BRP full synthetic. That will never change. Oh yeah and about the reeds I ran them up to 17,000 miles before I replace them this Summer. Two of them had maybe an eighth inch of tattered corner on them. Kind of got off topic from v-force reads, sorry. I guess what I'm saying is OEM last a very long time!

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Posted 04 December 2020 - 03:33 AM

The oem reeds and boots are top notch imo. But if you want to use V-Force reeds, I say go for it. The 800 E-TEC already uses W type reads, so there is nowhere the advantage as when sleds were using V reeds, if any advantage. On the 600 SDI I can see a difference in the idle, but the 600 E-TEC controls the idle so I doubt it would be noticeable. It's not very scientific, but I haven't noticed any problems either, so take it for what it is worth.


Edited by Daag44, 04 December 2020 - 03:34 AM.

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800R Cranking Compression
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850 Center Oil line for coolant pump melted
850 Main Oil line caught fire #1 and #2
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E-TEC Oil Pump
E-TEC Dial-A-Jet
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E-TEC Engine Management
E-TEC eRAVE position code recurring
E-TEC Stator fault codes P1562 or P1563
E-TEC Capacitor Charge Hold Test and Residual Voltage Test
E-TEC Voltage Rectifier Regulator troubleshooting
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Fuel Issues: Could new Ester type oxygenated additives be deteriorating the Fuel Sender Grommet?
Fuel pump and regulator replacement for ACE, E-TEC and SDI
Gasoline quality and storage
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GNR CVT Alignment for the G4
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G4 Clutch Alignment, Engine Movement, Sheave Runout and Clutching
G4 850 Throttle Jerkiness solved with clutching
G4 850 Snappy throttle/clutch engagement
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Posted 08 December 2020 - 06:43 PM

Just following this thread and I am curious is there any performance gain or benefits with the after market reeds?


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