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#1 Expeditionxu

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Posted 22 October 2020 - 10:23 PM

Got a 2010 skidoo . The bar warmers are the two wire type . One yellow brown wire and one orange ( might be faded red ) any body know which is ground ? I am trying to figure out how to install 3 wire . The 3 wire is one low wire one high wire and a ground .thanks

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Posted 22 October 2020 - 10:40 PM

Neither.  Most of the electrical system is AC current.


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Posted 23 October 2020 - 03:46 AM

Basically there was two ways to do high/low/off on the older ones.

 

One was in the grip itself.   The grip had main heater element and then would have a wire that would split the heater element in half (or 2/3rds).  These are 3 wire. (common-high-low)

 

The other way that some machines did it was to have a resister inline with the "low" wire.  Then a switch that would switch between straight and resistor.

These were two wire elements with a SPDT switch that would have a big resistor.

 

As GPT said, the system is A/C.

 

If you are putting new 3 wire grips on, you'll need a switch.

 

One of those wires will be wired directly to the grip/heater elements.    The other gets wired to the SPDT switch.  Then the two remaining wires from the heater element get wired to each remaining pole on the switch.

 

The key with the 3 wire element is figuring out which one is the common and which one is high and which one is low.   If you just purchased the elements, there should be a piece of paper with the color coding.



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Posted 23 October 2020 - 09:04 AM

Thanks bear. Yes the new ones are labeled . Are you saying I cannot use the existing brp system with the three wire? The originals look like 3 wire with one wire snipped? Def want to use existing switch .

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Posted 26 October 2020 - 05:50 PM

Yellow brown is the new and the orange is positive. To wire the 3 wire to the 2 wire you just need to use the orange and the black, the orange purple is not used. Also if the sled has a battery then it is powered by 12dc power.

Edited by Berner4, 26 October 2020 - 05:51 PM.


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Posted 27 October 2020 - 10:13 AM

if the sled has a 3 position switch, you should be able to use existing.

 

center wire on the switch is power, other two are high/low.

 

not true about if it has a battery that it is 12v dc.  only newer sleds that have computers run off 12v dc.   older sleds only used dc to charge battery. max output on older sleds (pulsating) DC regulators was 5 amps.  thus, all accessories ran 12v AC






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