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#1 bfd323

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Posted 11 October 2020 - 07:56 PM

So being the idiot I am I dropped one of the carb boot bolts down the hole of the reed cage (had those out as well since I was replacing them.)
Question is how hard is it going to be to retrieve? I already tried using a scope to locate it. Is it worth the trouble pulling the engine apart to find the screw or is it lost for good?

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Posted 11 October 2020 - 08:06 PM

It has to come out



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Posted 11 October 2020 - 08:12 PM

Bad news, have to find it before you turn that engine over. Anything else will be very expensive. 



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Posted 11 October 2020 - 08:26 PM

Try a magnet...

Otherwise unbolt the engine and tip it back to get the screw to drop out...

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Posted 11 October 2020 - 08:31 PM

Bore scope and a grabber tool is what I would suggest
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Posted 11 October 2020 - 09:13 PM

Yikes. If im not mistaken. If reeds were out. Its either on top of piston or down in crankcase. If in crankcase. That my be next to impossible to get out without removing motor

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Posted 11 October 2020 - 10:06 PM

Whatever you do, do not turn the motor over. With some luck, it will be on top of the piston. Going to need to get a mirror, flash light, flexible magnet, etc. I would not go fishing without first looking with a magnet as you might make things worse.

 

How positive are you that it's in there?



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Posted 11 October 2020 - 11:58 PM

I once had the piston pin needles from a non caged bearing fall into the crankcase. I bought a Snap on inspection camera and it had a magnet that slipped on the end of the flexible wand. Within 5 minutes had all the needles out. Check with a local auto parts or repair shop, they may have something you could rent or borrow.



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Posted 12 October 2020 - 03:06 PM

First, if you haven't moved the crank, look in the hole.   Is the piston above the port?   Then it probably dropped to the bottom.   Get a bore-scope and take a look.

 

boroscopes that connect via WiFi or Bluetooth to your phone are actually fairly cheap.  I bought one off Amazon for $20



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Posted 12 October 2020 - 03:15 PM

If it went in the reed valve opening, there’s zero chance of it being on top of the piston. I would try poking around the crankshaft with a small, flexible magnet. I believe the head of those bolts are too large to let it slip between the sides of the counterweights and the case, it’s probably in the middle

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Posted 13 October 2020 - 02:36 AM

If all the quick methods fail, you might just take the machine out in the grass or soft dirt and turn it upside down.  Keep the front higher than the rear.



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Posted 13 October 2020 - 04:37 AM

Tape some cotton to a stiff wire ,Coat the cotton with grease ,stick it in the intake to get the screw out .if the excess grease stays in motor it won't hurt anything when started .



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Posted 13 October 2020 - 05:45 AM

Tape some cotton to a stiff wire ,Coat the cotton with grease ,stick it in the intake to get the screw out .if the excess grease stays in motor it won't hurt anything when started .

This works, so does double sided sticky tape. Very sticky tape, not junk.



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Posted 13 October 2020 - 07:30 AM

So being the idiot I am I dropped one of the carb boot bolts down the hole of the reed cage (had those out as well since I was replacing them.)
Question is how hard is it going to be to retrieve? I already tried using a scope to locate it. Is it worth the trouble pulling the engine apart to find the screw or is it lost for good?

All right games over , 

You posted this 3 days ago with no response to any reply , you can't be that challenged to say "or is it lost for good " 

Yea right it's lost for good ,fire her up all will be good .



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Posted 13 October 2020 - 07:58 AM

Thanks for the suggestions. Have been trying a scope and magnet with no luck yet. Got a new suggestion i am trying tonight of attaching a runner hose to a wet vac to suck it out.






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