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#1 kolt45

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 05:37 PM

Just took an this old sled in on a trade. Im new to Skidoo and wondering what 2 stroke oil to use for the fuel injector as well as what belt I should buy? Thanks in advance for your wisdom!


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Posted 14 September 2020 - 07:12 AM

Was there supposed to be a picture?



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Posted 14 September 2020 - 10:52 AM

Was there supposed to be a picture?

Sure! If a pic helps...here it is!

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Posted 14 September 2020 - 01:27 PM

Sure! If a pic helps...here it is!
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A picture is indeed relevant. Without it I would have spewed out lots of Skandic WT info.

You have the S2000 version of the Skandic 500F and it looks to be in great shape. It isn’t as capable as the WT’s but with an 1.25” track it’s better than most people think. It’s usually pretty easy to find a 15x136x1.25 from a Renegade. I actually put that skid and track under a 97 Indy Lite GT 340 and it was a great little sled. Yours has much better low-end clutching though.

Those fanners will burn just about anything in injection oil, I used Castrol Super Snowmobile oil for years I mine and Wal-Mart / Canadian Tire usually puts a sale on it a couple times per year.

The BRP belts are fine, Dayco / Carlisle also makes a good belt at an affordable price point. Either has no trouble handing the 60hp of a 500F.

Enjoy your sled, it has an excellent drivetrain and it will haul well above it’s weight category.

Also, that’s a 96/97 as it still has the black hood. 98 saw the intro of the grey hood. Same sled mechanically, just a different hood color.

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Posted 14 September 2020 - 05:11 PM

A picture is indeed relevant. Without it I would have spewed out lots of Skandic WT info.

You have the S2000 version of the Skandic 500F and it looks to be in great shape. It isn’t as capable as the WT’s but with an 1.25” track it’s better than most people think. It’s usually pretty easy to find a 15x136x1.25 from a Renegade. I actually put that skid and track under a 97 Indy Lite GT 340 and it was a great little sled. Yours has much better low-end clutching though.

Those fanners will burn just about anything in injection oil, I used Castrol Super Snowmobile oil for years I mine and Wal-Mart / Canadian Tire usually puts a sale on it a couple times per year.

The BRP belts are fine, Dayco / Carlisle also makes a good belt at an affordable price point. Either has no trouble handing the 60hp of a 500F.

Enjoy your sled, it has an excellent drivetrain and it will haul well above it’s weight category.

Also, that’s a 96/97 as it still has the black hood. 98 saw the intro of the grey hood. Same sled mechanically, just a different hood color.

Thanks so much for all this great info. The sled is in great shape and I'm looking forward to bringing out ice fishing this season. Would you have any tips in helping it pull over a little easier? I know it's warm out and I am low on oil but it takes 10-15 pulls and choke stunts to get it going..



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Posted 14 September 2020 - 05:21 PM

You may want to do a good tune up/carb cleaning and make sure you have fresh fuel. Also check/replace all the fuel lines.  Running properly, that sled should start with only a couple of pulls. For someone that really can’t pull it over, adding estart is always possible. Should be a great little sled for you!

 

As far as oil, lots of good ones, few bad ones really. Comes down to personal preference. BRP mineral oil is always an affordable option that you can’t go wrong with. We don’t need another oil thread lol. Pick a known brand and go with it, hard to go wrong.


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Posted 14 September 2020 - 08:07 PM

Skidoo part number for the belt is 415-06-0600

 

 

It doesn't have exhaust valves so just about any 2 stroke oil will do just fine.   If you can get Amsoil for cheap, that really works well in the fan cooled.  I like the Dominator in my old 380 fan.

 

You should go through the skid and grease up on the points.   Including the bearing under the secondary clutch (speedometer cable goes into it).


Edited by TheBearAk, 14 September 2020 - 08:16 PM.


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Posted 14 September 2020 - 08:13 PM

Thanks so much for all this great info. The sled is in great shape and I'm looking forward to bringing out ice fishing this season. Would you have any tips in helping it pull over a little easier? I know it's warm out and I am low on oil but it takes 10-15 pulls and choke stunts to get it going..

Pull your carbs and clean them up. That sled should start cleanly at any temp from “cold” with the choke on full to start (that’s one position past vertical) then in vertical position to warm up (that’s 1/2 choke) then off. Quick flick back to vertical position if the engine starts to die in the first 30-60sec of the warm up.

Pulling these over was never too bad as far as I can recall. I put 15000kms on a 99 Skandic WT 500F and it wasn’t bad to start with the pull cord. 2-3 pulls max when it was -30*C.

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Posted 15 September 2020 - 05:22 AM

Pull your carbs and clean them up. That sled should start cleanly at any temp from “cold” with the choke on full to start (that’s one position past vertical) then in vertical position to warm up (that’s 1/2 choke) then off. Quick flick back to vertical position if the engine starts to die in the first 30-60sec of the warm up.

Pulling these over was never too bad as far as I can recall. I put 15000kms on a 99 Skandic WT 500F and it wasn’t bad to start with the pull cord. 2-3 pulls max when it was -30*C.

Did that sled have a choke, or a primer? My 500 Touring, esentially the same sled, had the primer. It was a good starter indeed, no matter what the temperature was, as long as I didn't give it too many pumps, in which case it was a real beast to get going. 



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Posted 15 September 2020 - 05:28 AM

Did that sled have a choke, or a primer? My 500 Touring, esentially the same sled, had the primer. It was a good starter indeed, no matter what the temperature was, as long as I didn't give it too many pumps, in which case it was a real beast to get going.


This is a good point as I do not recall when the big switch was made from primer to choke. It may have been 97/98.

The guy did say “choke”, so I assumed it had a choke. Maybe it is indeed a primer?!

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Posted 15 September 2020 - 07:49 AM

This is a good point as I do not recall when the big switch was made from primer to choke. It may have been 97/98.

The guy did say “choke”, so I assumed it had a choke. Maybe it is indeed a primer?!

Out of curiosity, I just looked on a parts schematic, and as of 97, the Skandic 500 did indeed have a choke. 



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Posted 15 September 2020 - 08:34 AM

The sled may not have the freshest fuel in it. Good fuel, good tune up and it should start well.



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Posted 16 September 2020 - 01:41 AM

Make sure the choke is adjusted properly too.  I've seen people adjust them down so they barely open.



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Posted 18 September 2020 - 02:26 PM

Appreciate all the tips guys!

 

I took carbs apart this week and found plugged jets in both and sticking floats in one.. Next up will be changing out the fuel and spark plugs but am sure the carb cleaning did her a lot of good.

 

This sled has both choke and primer. I'm familiar with choke but am unclear under what cirucumstance I would need both choke and primer? I tried primer before choke (before pulling the carbs) and head it flood pretty quickly. Am I missing something or doing it wrong?



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Posted 18 September 2020 - 02:29 PM

Also, no drain on the chain case....

 

I guess I will have to pull the exhaust, lay an oil rag down and pull the cover off to drain the oil before filling? Am I missing something here?






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