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#1 Moosestache

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Posted 06 September 2020 - 02:04 PM

Just curious what tunes people are using, and what their thoughts on them are. Warranty issues, cost, gains, problems etc..


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Posted 06 September 2020 - 04:36 PM

Do a search, There are many threads.


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Posted 06 September 2020 - 06:14 PM

warranty and most tuning do not go together
extra rpms or boost is a warranty killer

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Posted 07 September 2020 - 08:41 AM

Many great tuners offering Tunes, do a search. Top left corner of page (Google Custom Search) insert 900T tunes, days of reading. Who ever you use, ask them for clutch set up recommendations for best results. You are going to read a lot of BS, weed it out.

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Posted 07 September 2020 - 12:07 PM

I took a little time this morning to sift through some of the offerings from the tuners available for comparison take.

TD tunes require the GAP flasher,
The flashers is roughly 500 usd plus a tune which is another $375 for a tune.

Total - $875 just to tune it.
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Hurricane tunes require the GAP flasher
The Flasher is $500 usd plus the price of a tune which is another $485

Total - $985 just to tune it

Hurricane also offers an injector tune Flasher - $500, tune $485, injectors $350
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Whalen speed

PV3 system with free data logging - GAP flashers listed above require additional funds to allow data logging - $399

Whalen speed tune WITH PV3 system - $599

Whalen speed tune with Pv3 system AND 1050cc injectors - $1154
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Precision EFI

Stage 1 - 180 hp flash - $455 usd

Stage 2 - 215 hp - Flash, downpipe, fuel system, wastegate - $1900 usd
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Boost engineering -

Stage 1 and 2 flashes available - Someone can chime in and I will edit my post but believe it is $500 cad to flash or $380 usd plus the cost of shipping the ECU.
No flasher available from Boost engineering.
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ALL of the above require clutching and should have gearing to take advantage of the power.

ZRP - Clutch weights
Hot rod sled shop - weights
Dalton weights
and BRP clickers with goodwin weights all do a great job on this engine. Pick your flavor and go.

Although I didn't get to test them except in y 850 I believe the heel clicker weights would be awesome in the 900 turbo.

Fastest ET / MPH in my own data logging was with a 38 tooth bottom gear and stock top gear.

 

Additional information regarding the above is that the PV3 can tune multiple sleds but the license fee kind of makes it pointless seeing as for an extra $100 you get the full unit to do what you want with.  The PV3 also comes WITH a 180 hp tune from dynojet for $399 with unlimited logging on it.  The GAP flashers only offer this for an additional fee.  You can however have a friend with a gap flasher flash your sled as long as the tuning company matches the gap flasher.  Example Hurricane tunes require Hurricane gap flasher.

 

In addition to all this if you are one to tinker you can buy a Pv3 and modify your factory tune to suit your needs.  This would come with a strong recommendation to have a tuning understanding and wideband data logging as well.  

 

If you are to choose any of the other platforms you would have to use the tunes which are provided by the specific tuner with limited customization.  

 

Hope this helps and it should cover just about every option currently available.  


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Posted 07 September 2020 - 02:56 PM

Additional information regarding the above is that the PV3 can tune multiple sleds but the license fee kind of makes it pointless seeing as for an extra $100 you get the full unit to do what you want with.  The PV3 also comes WITH a 180 hp tune from dynojet for $399 with unlimited logging on it.  The GAP flashers only offer this for an additional fee.  You can however have a friend with a gap flasher flash your sled as long as the tuning company matches the gap flasher.  Example Hurricane tunes require Hurricane gap flasher.

 

In addition to all this if you are one to tinker you can buy a Pv3 and modify your factory tune to suit your needs.  This would come with a strong recommendation to have a tuning understanding and wideband data logging as well.  

 

If you are to choose any of the other platforms you would have to use the tunes which are provided by the specific tuner with limited customization.  

 

Hope this helps and it should cover just about every option currently available.              Thank you  



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Posted 07 September 2020 - 03:12 PM

So, if I read that all correctly.  If I go with the whalen system for $599 I get their flashes along with the tool to flash it back to stock, or reflash with a new update if one comes along.  Comparing to the hurricane, which is $485, but I send it to them to flash.  Then if they come out with a new update or if I want to go back to stock, I have to send it back to the hurricane dealer again to reflash.  But Hurricane has 175-190-205 tunes, and it looks like whalens are less than that.  Does that mean that the whalen tunes aren't as fast or is it not quite that simple.  It also looks like I have to do some clutch work regardless of which tune I go with. 



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Posted 07 September 2020 - 03:26 PM

So, if I read that all correctly.  If I go with the whalen system for $599 I get their flashes along with the tool to flash it back to stock, or reflash with a new update if one comes along.  Comparing to the hurricane, which is $485, but I send it to them to flash.  Then if they come out with a new update or if I want to go back to stock, I have to send it back to the hurricane dealer again to reflash.  But Hurricane has 175-190-205 tunes, and it looks like whalens are less than that.  Does that mean that the whalen tunes aren't as fast or is it not quite that simple.  It also looks like I have to do some clutch work regardless of which tune I go with. 

Your in Southern ME,Just call Chris at C&T ,Get a flash ,clutching ,and info ,and be done .He"ll work with you .



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Posted 07 September 2020 - 04:35 PM

So, if I read that all correctly. If I go with the whalen system for $599 I get their flashes along with the tool to flash it back to stock, or reflash with a new update if one comes along. Comparing to the hurricane, which is $485, but I send it to them to flash. Then if they come out with a new update or if I want to go back to stock, I have to send it back to the hurricane dealer again to reflash. But Hurricane has 175-190-205 tunes, and it looks like whalens are less than that. Does that mean that the whalen tunes aren't as fast or is it not quite that simple. It also looks like I have to do some clutch work regardless of which tune I go with.


180-185 is the most HP you can go with stock injectors. Read whalens write up about it. Whalens tunes come from maverick x3 background he has since 2016ish so his tunes are tested and true. Eveyone who has his tune seems to like the throttle feel. Hp is a guaranteed 180 or 185 depending on how u set your wastegate. Its all how you set up clutching and gearing. Best bang for the buck is whalen. Period.

Edited by DOOREV800, 07 September 2020 - 04:41 PM.

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Posted 07 September 2020 - 04:37 PM

Being close to Chris would be an excellent choice, his customer service is excellent!

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Posted 08 September 2020 - 08:18 AM

I have the pv3 and Whalen 180 and 185 tunes. As well as the weights he sells. Real happy with the power and throttle. Data logging found some issues with my sled. Main issue was throttle flipper only giving me 87 percent. Correcting that gave me 100 percent. Low boost was also found and I had to increase Crack pressure. Never would have found these issues without the data logging.

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Posted 08 September 2020 - 08:56 AM

I have the pv3 and Whalen 180 and 185 tunes. As well as the weights he sells. Real happy with the power and throttle. Data logging found some issues with my sled. Main issue was throttle flipper only giving me 87 percent. Correcting that gave me 100 percent. Low boost was also found and I had to increase Crack pressure. Never would have found these issues without the data logging.


How many grams are you running in your adjustable arms? John told me 2 weights in the heel to start, just wondering if others are finding the same?

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Posted 08 September 2020 - 09:17 AM

Your in Southern ME,Just call Chris at C&T ,Get a flash ,clutching ,and info ,and be done .He"ll work with you .

 

Agreed. I made an appointment and on a Friday after work brought my machine to him. He flashed the sled and did all the clutch work for me in about an hour and a half. Easy peasy. 



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Posted 08 September 2020 - 12:38 PM

Additional information regarding the above is that the PV3 can tune multiple sleds but the license fee kind of makes it pointless seeing as for an extra $100 you get the full unit to do what you want with.  The PV3 also comes WITH a 180 hp tune from dynojet for $399 with unlimited logging on it.  The GAP flashers only offer this for an additional fee.  You can however have a friend with a gap flasher flash your sled as long as the tuning company matches the gap flasher.  Example Hurricane tunes require Hurricane gap flasher.

 

In addition to all this if you are one to tinker you can buy a Pv3 and modify your factory tune to suit your needs.  This would come with a strong recommendation to have a tuning understanding and wideband data logging as well.  

 

If you are to choose any of the other platforms you would have to use the tunes which are provided by the specific tuner with limited customization.  

 

Hope this helps and it should cover just about every option currently available.  

 

 

 

So what does Whalen mean at their site when they say "What's Included? (Package Essentials)

  • WS185ACE Tune via DynoJet Power Vision PV3
    • DynoJet Power Vision included
    • 91 Octane & 93 Octane Tunes included
If you are looking for a more "safe" trail tune simply do not adjust the wastegate crack pressure(tension on the wastegate arm to the turbo). This tends to keep boost under 16 PSI, leaving more room in the fuel system. If you want the extra power from an extra PSI of boost pressure; increase crack pressure to 7 PSI."
 
Can the stock wastegate be adjusted?

Edited by A05GSHO, 08 September 2020 - 12:39 PM.


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Posted 08 September 2020 - 02:33 PM

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