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#1 Ski Dog

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Posted 29 June 2020 - 12:09 AM

I'm going to be getting a new motorcycle in the near future (Honda Goldwing) so l'm starting to buy safety gear.

I can't decide if l should buy a full face helmet (HJC Rpha 70/90) or a modular style (HJC i90). I know there are many advantages to the flip-up modular design but are there any disadvantages (other than the standard full face having a higher frontal impact rating vs. the modular design)?

I always had a full face helmet when l had motorcycles in years past (never wore a modular) but l'm wondering if the modular design is a game changer for touring?

Thanks for any input.

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Posted 29 June 2020 - 05:18 AM

I'm going to be getting a new motorcycle in the near future (Honda Goldwing) so l'm starting to buy safety gear.

I can't decide if l should buy a full face helmet (HJC Rpha 70/90) or a modular style (HJC i90). I know there are many advantages to the flip-up modular design but are there any disadvantages (other than the standard full face having a higher frontal impact rating vs. the modular design)?

I always had a full face helmet when l had motorcycles in years past (never wore a modular) but l'm wondering if the modular design is a game changer for touring?

Thanks for any input.

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I think you answered your own question;

l'm starting to buy safety gear

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other than the standard full face having a higher frontal impact rating vs. the modular design

just don't go hand-in-hand...

For my head it has to be SNELL or ECE rated. If you're OK with DOT only I'm sure you'd like a modular.

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Posted 29 June 2020 - 05:43 PM

I don't care for the added weight of the Modular.   Probably wouldn't be as bad on a bike as a sled because you won't be bouncing around as much



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Posted 29 June 2020 - 08:55 PM

^^^ My brother went from a standard full face to a carbon fiber full face with his Spyder - he said best upgrade he ever did. He could ride longer with less fatigue, same thing I found with the sled.

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Posted 29 June 2020 - 09:13 PM

My opinion:

 

The modular is great for sledding, because you can leave it on to talk, drink, eat, etc and you don't have to take it off so your head stays warm.

 

On a bike, you don't need to worry about that....... when you stop on a bike, the helmet comes off pretty fast so you can cool off. The added safety of the full face on the bike is a plus as well, it's WAY more dangerous to ride a bike than a sled, no pavement, average sled speeds are generally half of a bikes, and of course on the roads there is the new generation of fools operating vehicles that just can't put their stupid phone down.

 

Thankfully you can't drive a sled with one hand / your knees and talk on the phone ......yet.

 

I have both, modular for sledding, full face for my bike. They each have their place, but ultimately it's YOUR choice on what you want to do.


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Posted 30 June 2020 - 01:31 AM

Thanks for the input guys, all valid points.

I've decided to go with the full face. Although l like the idea of being able to flip up the jaw while putting fuel in the bike or to get some fresh air while riding, safety is my main priority therefore l'm going to go with the full face.

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Posted 30 June 2020 - 07:22 AM

I would **HIGHLY** suggest looking at a helmet with the Fidlock strap system on it. 509 uses it on some of their stuff, my M-Forge helmet has it. I just ordered one for my wifes helmet as she struggles with getting hers latched up sometimes. 


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Posted 30 June 2020 - 05:33 PM

I just bought up my first motorcycle a couple weeks ago. I don't know anything about modular helmets. Always considered them an "old guy helmet" (sorry modular guys). I picked up an HJC i70. It is hands down the most comfortable helmet I've ever owned. Got the helmet and an extra smoke shield (came with a clear) for around $285.

On a personal note I'd like to say it was a nice to wear a helmet with the visor closed and not have my glasses immediately fog up haha

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Posted 01 July 2020 - 07:42 AM

I went with a Schuberth E1 for biking. Good venting, opens easy, installed a com system, works great!

Also run all Klim gear with the protective crash pads.

After my sled crash this year with my Oxygen Helmet, you won’t see me wear anything but full face and all the gear all the time.

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Posted 01 July 2020 - 08:29 AM

My best friend who recently passed away had a K1600 Grand America, what an awesome bike!!! I had the privilege of putting some miles on it and absolutely loved it.

I've decided on an HJC RPHA 70 and will also be going with a Klim Marakesh jacket. Good safety features and it fit me perfectly. CU Later has great prices on Klim gear so l'll be placing an order with him soon. I'll also be going with a pair of Klim K52 riding jeans and l already have a pair of Alpinestars kevlar gloves.

As the saying goes, "Dress for the dance, not the party." How true...

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Edited by Ski Dog, 01 July 2020 - 03:52 PM.

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1987 Polaris Indy Trail
1990 Polaris Indy 650
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1994 Arctic Cat Wild Cat 700 EFI
1995 Arctic Car ZR 440 Sno Pro
1996 Polaris Indy 500
1997 Polaris XC 600
1999 Polaris Indy 500 XC SP
2000 Polaris Indy 500 XC SP 50th Anniversary
2001 Ski-Doo MX-Z Adrenaline 600
2002 Ski-Doo MX-Z Adrenaline 600
2003 Ski-Doo MX-Z X 600
2004 Ski-Doo Renegade X 600 
2005 Ski-Doo Renegade X 600
1999 Arctic Cat Kitty Cat
2006 Ski-Doo Renegade X 600
2007 Ski-Doo Renegade 800Ptek Adrenaline
2007 Ski-Doo Mini-Z 120
2008 Ski-Doo Renegade Adrenaline 800R
2006 Ski-Doo MX-Z 380F

1973 Ski-Doo T'NT 294 Silver Bullet
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2016 Ski-Doo Renegade Adrenaline 1200

2018 Ski-Doo Renegade Adrenaline 850

2019 Ski-Doo Renegade Adrenaline 900 Turbo

2020 Ski-Doo Renegade X 900 Turbo - Manta Green

 

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#11 Ski Dog

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Posted 02 July 2020 - 11:22 AM

Follow-up question...I found an HJC RPHA 70 in matte white (w/limited black) that I really like.  For those who have experience with matte finish helmets, how are they to keep clean regarding bugs and everyday use/handling?  

 

Through my helmet research, I've discovered that (statistically) white is the safest color of helmet and provides the best visibility which is my main priority.  If matte finish is a PITA to keep clean and looking new I'm going to go with the solid white in gloss finish.

 

Thanks again for the info guys, I appreciate your input!! :)


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1987 Polaris Indy Trail
1990 Polaris Indy 650
1993 Arctic Cat Wild Cat 700 EFI
1994 Arctic Cat Wild Cat 700 EFI
1995 Arctic Car ZR 440 Sno Pro
1996 Polaris Indy 500
1997 Polaris XC 600
1999 Polaris Indy 500 XC SP
2000 Polaris Indy 500 XC SP 50th Anniversary
2001 Ski-Doo MX-Z Adrenaline 600
2002 Ski-Doo MX-Z Adrenaline 600
2003 Ski-Doo MX-Z X 600
2004 Ski-Doo Renegade X 600 
2005 Ski-Doo Renegade X 600
1999 Arctic Cat Kitty Cat
2006 Ski-Doo Renegade X 600
2007 Ski-Doo Renegade 800Ptek Adrenaline
2007 Ski-Doo Mini-Z 120
2008 Ski-Doo Renegade Adrenaline 800R
2006 Ski-Doo MX-Z 380F

1973 Ski-Doo T'NT 294 Silver Bullet
2010 Ski-Doo Renegade Adrenaline 1200

2016 Ski-Doo Renegade Adrenaline 1200

2018 Ski-Doo Renegade Adrenaline 850

2019 Ski-Doo Renegade Adrenaline 900 Turbo

2020 Ski-Doo Renegade X 900 Turbo - Manta Green

 

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Posted 02 July 2020 - 11:29 AM

Follow-up question...I found an HJC RPHA 70 in matte white (w/limited black) that I really like. For those who have experience with matte finish helmets, how are they to keep clean regarding bugs and everyday use/handling?

Through my helmet research, I've discovered that (statistically) white is the safest color of helmet and provides the best visibility which is my main priority. If matte finish is a PITA to keep clean and looking new I'm going to go with the solid white in gloss finish.

Thanks again for the info guys, I appreciate your input!! :)


My bike is matte. F11 is your friend.
My Schuberth is silver gloss.
I don’t think I’d buy a matte helmet. They get too beat up with use.


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#13 Ski Dog

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Posted 02 July 2020 - 11:45 AM

My bike is matte. F11 is your friend.
My Schuberth is silver gloss.
I don’t think I’d buy a matte helmet. They get too beat up with use.


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Kind of what I was afraid of. I like to keep my things looking nice so I'm going to go with gloss solid white.  Thanks for your input, I really appreciate it!


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1987 Polaris Indy Trail
1990 Polaris Indy 650
1993 Arctic Cat Wild Cat 700 EFI
1994 Arctic Cat Wild Cat 700 EFI
1995 Arctic Car ZR 440 Sno Pro
1996 Polaris Indy 500
1997 Polaris XC 600
1999 Polaris Indy 500 XC SP
2000 Polaris Indy 500 XC SP 50th Anniversary
2001 Ski-Doo MX-Z Adrenaline 600
2002 Ski-Doo MX-Z Adrenaline 600
2003 Ski-Doo MX-Z X 600
2004 Ski-Doo Renegade X 600 
2005 Ski-Doo Renegade X 600
1999 Arctic Cat Kitty Cat
2006 Ski-Doo Renegade X 600
2007 Ski-Doo Renegade 800Ptek Adrenaline
2007 Ski-Doo Mini-Z 120
2008 Ski-Doo Renegade Adrenaline 800R
2006 Ski-Doo MX-Z 380F

1973 Ski-Doo T'NT 294 Silver Bullet
2010 Ski-Doo Renegade Adrenaline 1200

2016 Ski-Doo Renegade Adrenaline 1200

2018 Ski-Doo Renegade Adrenaline 850

2019 Ski-Doo Renegade Adrenaline 900 Turbo

2020 Ski-Doo Renegade X 900 Turbo - Manta Green

 

CURRENT SLED:

2021 Ski-Doo Renegade X 900 Turbo - Black

 

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