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#1 Shak92

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Posted 16 June 2020 - 09:37 PM

Hi Everyone. I'm new to the forum and I'm from near Edmonton, Alberta.

I learned to snowmobile when I was fairly young and after several years of not riding I started riding again this past winter. I grew up learning to ride on either a 97 Formula 583 or 98 Formula 500 that my parents own, both on 121 tracks.

Im considering a 2003-2007 Rev Platform Skidoo as there are some within my price range on Kijiji. I've noticed alot more summits on Kijiji and have wondered whether a summit or renegade would be better for the type of riding I do.

Most riding would be either through the fields or along fencelines and occasionally crossing a frozen river or following alongside . Would not necessarily be on a dedicated trail, more so following tracks of previous snowmobiles. Would also see some powder use as well. The only time it would really travel at higher speeds is maybe the lake or across a field.

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Posted 16 June 2020 - 09:54 PM

Ditch the 121 find a 144 or longer youll never go back or see if you can find an xm chassis in your price range.

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Posted 16 June 2020 - 10:07 PM

I suppose I should mention the 3 sleds I am going to look at

2003 MXZ Renegade 800 with a 155 track. No idea if its been rebuilt but 3500 km

2005 Summit 600 144 2 inch. 7100 km on the original engine.

2007 Summit 800 151 2 inch. Rebuilt Top end.

Or should I look for something else? I'm open to suggestions.


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Posted 16 June 2020 - 10:14 PM

is the 05 an sdi?

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Posted 16 June 2020 - 10:14 PM

No just a HO

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Posted 16 June 2020 - 10:17 PM

still a solid engine but thats a few miles

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Posted 17 June 2020 - 10:18 AM

I would stay away from a 2003 800. But all of these sleds are long in the tooth. The 600s were known for better longevity than 800s.

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Posted 17 June 2020 - 10:37 AM

I would recommend a Summit in AB mostly just because as you say there are more available so better options to choose from as well as more parts available when you need something. Also if you decide to do a mountain trip you'll be on a sled that can handle it well enough to see what it's about. 

As said above avoid the 03 800 they aren't known for longevity. That 07 800 would be my choice as long as the crank was done at some point. They had improper clearance from the factory and nearly all of them failed so it's likely been done. The 06 Summit 800 was a great machine too, the pinnacle of the 800 HO motor. The 07 Summit XRS was the pinnacle of the Rev sleds and I see them for $2500 - $3k. 


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Posted 17 June 2020 - 01:02 PM

I would recommend a Summit in AB mostly just because as you say there are more available so better options to choose from as well as more parts available when you need something. Also if you decide to do a mountain trip you'll be on a sled that can handle it well enough to see what it's about.
As said above avoid the 03 800 they aren't known for longevity. That 07 800 would be my choice as long as the crank was done at some point. They had improper clearance from the factory and nearly all of them failed so it's likely been done. The 06 Summit 800 was a great machine too, the pinnacle of the 800 HO motor. The 07 Summit XRS was the pinnacle of the Rev sleds and I see them for $2500 - $3k.

The guy said the engine was long blocked by the dealer two years ago so I would assume they would have done the crank update. And its within that price range.

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Posted 17 June 2020 - 01:09 PM

I also came across a 2005 MXZ 800 121 with a new engine. Would that be better and should a longer track be swapped in?

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Posted 17 June 2020 - 02:04 PM

I've always stuck to the 600s mainly because of the reliability and longevity of the engines, and I find 120 hp is totally adequate for my riding. I've had 3 600 sdi's, 1 etec, and just spring ordered a 600r. My friends kept melting down their 800s and my 600s just kept going and going. It sounds as though the newer 850 and maybe the 800 etecs have a better track record than the older 800s.

 

What you choose will totally depend on what type of riding you want to do. Out of the sleds you were looking at, of course i would pick the 2005 summit. I've had 2 2005 600 sdi renegades and they were both awesome sleds.

 

From my limited knowledge, most people are getting 12k to 15k out of their 600 sdi's


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Posted 17 June 2020 - 02:32 PM

The guy said the engine was long blocked by the dealer two years ago so I would assume they would have done the crank update. And its within that price range.

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I would pay that strong consideration then. As said above the 600's generally last much longer if you're happy with 600 class power. Don't get into doing a track swap the costs add up quick and you could have just rolled that into the original purchase and gotten the machine you wanted in the 1st place. 


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Posted 17 June 2020 - 02:57 PM

I would be ok with a 600. The 2005 600 was only a 144-2 inch. Also only had 7100 km on it so still lots of life left.

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Posted 17 June 2020 - 03:38 PM

I would be ok with a 600. The 2005 600 was only a 144-2 inch. Also only had 7100 km on it so still lots of life left.

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Depending if it was trail or mtn ridden the engine may have lots of life left or be ready for work. At that mileage the chassis will be getting a bit hammered as far as bearings, bushings, and rivets working loose though. 


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Posted 18 June 2020 - 08:54 AM

I've always stuck to the 600s mainly because of the reliability and longevity of the engines, and I find 120 hp is totally adequate for my riding. I've had 3 600 sdi's, 1 etec, and just spring ordered a 600r. My friends kept melting down their 800s and my 600s just kept going and going. It sounds as though the newer 850 and maybe the 800 etecs have a better track record than the older 800s.

 

What you choose will totally depend on what type of riding you want to do. Out of the sleds you were looking at, of course i would pick the 2005 summit. I've had 2 2005 600 sdi renegades and they were both awesome sleds.

 

From my limited knowledge, most people are getting 12k to 15k out of their 600 sdi's

 

 

I had 26,000km on my SDI, new crank last summer. No failure, except the center seals were going.  Although the PTO bearing fell off when I lifted the crank out of the case.  It was due.


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