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#31 TheGreyGhost

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 08:18 PM

Humm, could be the angle, but it looks like to me that the tmotion pivot is not as tall as the other one.

I agree. I thinks it’s where the mounting point of the shock that makes it sag more. I’ll have to take some pictures when I get a chance


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Posted 06 April 2020 - 09:26 PM

I can measure height tomorrow



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Posted 07 April 2020 - 10:37 AM

I can measure height tomorrow


That would be awesome


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Posted 07 April 2020 - 02:11 PM

Overall height is the same on both

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Posted 07 April 2020 - 10:07 PM

Checked part numbers today the 154 c moron from 2020 backcountry xrs and 2011 rear arm and rear pivot has same part numbers. I’m going to give them a go first thing when I get my new 2021 expert. I have to pull rails to paint them the colour I want anyway



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Posted 08 April 2020 - 07:28 PM

Does anyone know if the aluminum link rods need to be replaced with the none t motion ones? If I remember correctly when I installed t motion on my 2010 that the kit came with new link rods. I sure wish I could find my old suspension from it to out in my 19. Does anyone have the directions for the t motion install kit for the older xp sleds?

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Posted 09 April 2020 - 01:51 PM

Does anyone know if the aluminum link rods need to be replaced with the none t motion ones? If I remember correctly when I installed t motion on my 2010 that the kit came with new link rods. I sure wish I could find my old suspension from it to out in my 19. Does anyone have the directions for the t motion install kit for the older xp sleds?

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As 17+ yes they are the same part number. 503192900


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#38 Sebbel1991

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Posted 09 April 2020 - 07:48 PM

Ive never drived a tmotion delete sled whats the big difference ?

Example when doing sidehill..

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Posted 09 April 2020 - 08:48 PM

Ive never drived a tmotion delete sled whats the big difference ?

Example when doing sidehill..


You ever notice when side hilling that the sled wants to go up or down? In theory getting rid of t mo will help improve that plus other things


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Posted 13 April 2020 - 12:53 PM

Ive never drived a tmotion delete sled whats the big difference ?

Example when doing sidehill..

3 degrees of pivot left and right for a total of 6 degrees of rear wiggle slop. Deleting the T motion removes this slop, allowing you more control while sidehilling. 


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Posted 13 April 2020 - 02:31 PM

So, when you guys get this all figured out. Post what oem parts would be needed to remove t motion.

I would normally ride in April, not this year with all this "edit for bad language" going on.


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Posted 13 April 2020 - 05:35 PM

Yes.   If someone could post the PNs it would be appreciated.   


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Posted 14 April 2020 - 06:24 PM

Tmo decreases your leverage a little bit when sidehilling the steepest slopes in thin snow conditions.  Makes it a little harder to manage.  All Doos want to point uphill when sidehilling.  At least all of the ones I've owned since '05.  It's a "trait", that is pretty easily overcome with "skill".  At the bleeding edge, Tmo may be a bit of a disadvantage. The rest of the time it is either an advantage (initiating carves in flatter terrain) or neutral ("edit for bad language" wiggle on the trail).  Personally, I keep it stock. 



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Posted 16 April 2020 - 08:04 AM

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2017 154” G4


I have the XP apart ATM and the shocks shot so I tried to lift it up to get rid of the sag. You can see that they all share the similar geometry. I have a scrap XP that I want to take the rear arm out and try in my G4


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Posted 14 July 2020 - 04:12 PM

The problem with the arm is the pivot is the only place the upper part of the arm is secured. That pin that holds the arm assembly from opening up is only tack welded on one side.

This allows the heim joint to be installed. This allows the lower arm to spread a bit. But that pin does not add any structural support, just a stop for the upper rear arm.

 

Buy removing the pin which is only welded on one side and filed or ground down with a rotary file, we can add some structural support to the lower arm,

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