How to deal with a SCAMMER??? - Sledding - General Discussion - DOOTalk Forums

Jump to content

 






Photo

How to deal with a SCAMMER???


  • Please log in to reply
48 replies to this topic

#1 Trail Ryder

Trail Ryder

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3115 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Rochester, NY
  • Interests:Dirt Bikes and Snowmobiling
  • Sled:2014 XRS 800 ETEC with Quick Adjust

Posted 30 April 2019 - 11:44 AM

So in the Fall of 2018, my buddy sells his high mileage (14,150 miles) 2004 Renegade on Craig's List for very low price, due to the high miles.
 
Well now someone is selling his old sled on Craig's List and is now claiming that it has only 6,000 miles on it.
 
 
 
REV1%202004%20REV%20Ad1.jpg
 
 
REV2%202004%20REV%20Ad2.jpg
 
 
Odometer photo from last Fall:
 
REV4%202004%20Actual%20Mileage-X2.jpg
 
REV5-X2.jpg

Edited by Trail Ryder, 01 May 2019 - 09:04 AM.


#2 SKIDOZER500

SKIDOZER500

    On Thin Ice with Steve

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 32937 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Raymond/New Portland me
  • Sled:2016 tnt 900 ace 09 tnt500ss 05mxz 500ss

Posted 30 April 2019 - 12:00 PM

Ad is gone already..


Sent from my iPhone three days ago

America,the home of the ENTITLED


#3 Baba Yaga

Baba Yaga

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 2198 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Sled:Race sled

Posted 30 April 2019 - 12:50 PM

Maybe it's like Stephen King's "Christine", and the odometer goes backwards. Sled must be posessed by the devil.....

#4 Sledhead188

Sledhead188

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 344 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Lancaster NH
  • Interests:Riding the Backcountry of NH, ME, and the Chic Chocs
  • Sled:2017 Pro Rmk 800 Axys

Posted 30 April 2019 - 01:25 PM

Had this happen with my 2016 pro rmk I sold last season, sled had 3400 miles on it when I sold it (was not a perfect sled by any stretch of the imagination, was a rental sled at one point, buyer knew this), sold it for a decent price and was happy for what I got it for and the buyer seemed to be happy as well, he was buying it to replace his 2014. A month later he posted the sled forsale as a 2017 with the GPS polaris gauge (resets the miles when installed) and saying the sled had only 250 miles on it, I replied to his facebook post saying it was unacceptable and flat out illegal to change the speedo and lie about the mileage on the sled, kicker was he was asking $1000 more and wanted to trade for the exact same sled, (why would you want to trade a 2017 sled with 250 miles for another 2017 sled? Because you're lying). I messaged the moderators of the group and told them and the post was gone within the hour. This sled had a one of a kind wrap on it with my company/brands logos on it that only me and my buddies have, it was 100% my old sled and I didn't want the next buyer to get scammed by a sled with what works out to be my advertisements on it. In the end I don't know what happened to it, haven't seen it forsale since.


Edited by Sledhead188, 30 April 2019 - 01:28 PM.

2011 MXZ Sport "X" 600 Carb   SOLD  

2014 Pro RMK 800 155 SOLD 

2016 Pro RMK 800 155 Axys  SOLD                                                  

2017 Pro RMK 800 155 Axys   Current Ride                        

 

I'll own a Doo again someday....


#5 Trail Ryder

Trail Ryder

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3115 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Rochester, NY
  • Interests:Dirt Bikes and Snowmobiling
  • Sled:2014 XRS 800 ETEC with Quick Adjust

Posted 30 April 2019 - 01:41 PM

Ad is gone already..


Sent from my iPhone three days ago

 

Nope.  https://rochester.cr...6877712774.html


'14 XRS 797 w/QA
'06 MXZ 597 Adrenaline X - Wife's
'08 Venture GT - PaPa's

'18 KTM 250 XCW (NY Street Plated 2-Stroke)

 

Long gone:

'13 T'NT 594

'09 T'NT 597

'08 T'NT 597

'05 MXZ 597


#6 jdskycaster

jdskycaster

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3208 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Western WI
  • Sled:20' XRS 900T Gade

Posted 30 April 2019 - 01:56 PM

One way would be for members here to just keep dumping is ad.  Cannot keep him from selling it as he can always just park it in his yard with a for sale sign but it also can't hurt.


2020 Renegade XRS 900T

2016 Blizzard 1200 (Sold)

2014 Renegade 900 ACE
1972 Arctic Cat Kitty Cat
2014 R&R 7518PSD Deluxe Trailer


#7 Daag44

Daag44

    Advanced Member

  • DOOCrew
  • 25485 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:South Shore, Quebec
  • Interests:1973 Olympic
  • Sled:2007 1000 SDI

Posted 30 April 2019 - 02:17 PM

No wonder I have trouble finding stuff in the classified ads.

 

Key Words: yamaha ski doo polaris arctic cat chevy ford dodge toyota honda kawasaki suzuki john deere toro ferris scag lawn garden house sport sports snowmobile snow snowmobiling old forge vacation


Air/Fuel Ratio for two and four strokes
Air/Fuel Ratio for 1200 with boost
Air/Fuel Ratio is measured through emissions
Wideband and EGT
Wideband readings of Air/Fuel Ratio on a two stroke
600 SDI MY2004 Lean/Hot spot running 6900-7000 rpm @ 40-45% Throttle Opening
800R Cranking Compression
800R Oil Injection / Premix combo
800R Turbo?
850 Cente Oil line for coolant pump melted
850 Main Oil line caught fire #1 and #2
900 ACE Turbo - muffler turning red hot
1200 4-TEC Mapping
1200 4-TEC MY 2009 to 2011 Fuel Line issues that could cause a fire
Batteries
Belt Blowers: Overview of UPMICHIGANDER's experience
BUDS 3.3.0 won't connect to SDI
BUDS not connecting to HO or SDI - Try a CanDoo
CVT efficiency - BlueMax
Deep snow intake for XP chassis
Diagnoses
E-TEC 600HO Clutching
E-TEC Oil Pump
E-TEC Dial-A-Jet
E-TEC Electric Start troubleshooting
E-TEC Engine Management
E-TEC Stator fault codes P1562 or P1563
E-TEC Capacitor Charge Hold Test and Residual Voltage Test
E-TEC Voltage Rectifier Regulator troubleshooting
Fuel Issues: Could new Ester type oxygenated additives be deteriorating the Fuel Sender Grommet?
Fuel pump and regulator replacement for ACE, E-TEC and SDI
Gasoline quality and storage
Bad Gas for a Two Stroke - Is it a Myth ?
G4 Clutch Alignment, Engine Movement, Sheave Runout and Clutching
GNR CVT Alignment for the G4
Grip N Rip Clutch Alignment testing
G4 850 Throttle Jerkiness solved with clutching
G4 850 Snappy throttle/clutch engagement
G4 850 pDrive tech - A question of Engineering
G4 Steering
G4 850 Tuned Pipe @ 12.6 lbs and Muffler @ 15.4 lbs vs 800R and 800RE muffler weight
Pictures - How to resize and upload to DooTalk
Pictures - How to post with the correct orientation
Pipe Pressure testing on a dyno
Pipe Pressure testing from LRD (#1) and (#2)
Pipe Pressure testing results from BRP
Oil versus Fuel consumption
Power at the Crankshaft vs Track - BlueMax
Power Curves: 600 HOE (E-TEC)
Power Curves: 600 vs 800 vs 850 vs 1000 vs 1200
Power Curves: 1000 vs 800 vs 600
Power curves: 800RE 2010.5 to 2016 vs 2016.5 850
Quebec/NY State border crossing
REV Gen1 Gauge Display stuck on "SCALE"
REV Gen1 Volt and Temp Gauge install
REV Gen1 electrical connectors for sensors and MPEM (Multi Purpose Engine Module)
Seafoam for E-TEC injectors
Shortblock or Rebuild?
Ski-Doo Snowmobile Tech Training
Stator testing for E-TEC using a T harness/Bridge
Stator testing for 1200 4-TEC
Stator replacement for a 1200 4-TEC
Suspension Adjustment
Triples - Coolant Pump Assembly
Y-Pipe bolts loosening fix


#8 TRAIL_BOSS

TRAIL_BOSS

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 135 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Fair Oaks N.Y.
  • Sled:2007 MXZ 500SS/2005 F7 Retro

Posted 30 April 2019 - 03:04 PM

He also has it listed in the facebook  Big moose old forge trail conditions page where you can also see his profile. 



#9 SShooterZ

SShooterZ

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 762 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Sled:2017 Arctic Cat ZR8000 Sno Pro

Posted 30 April 2019 - 03:22 PM

I don't know what you can do to the seller other than caveat emptor as a buyer.

 

Maybe call the local police and let them know what he's doing and let Ski Doo know what is going on as well?



#10 turbopete

turbopete

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4017 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Eastern Ontario, Canada
  • Interests:75 RV drag sled,
    76 RV 250/340's(3)
    77 RV's(a few!)
    78 Sonic,
    78 TNT 340 F/A,
    86 Formula Plus
    87 Formula Plus
    90 Plus 500
    91 Plus (2)
    93 Plus X's (2),
    93 Plus EFI(sold)
    80 Blizzard 7500
    90 Mach 1
    91 Mach 1
    92 Mach 1 (project)
    92 Mach 1 X
    94 Mach 1
    94 Grand Touring (2)
    95 Mach 1 (2)
    96 Formula Z
    97 Formula 500
    98 XC 700
    91 Phazer 2
    77 Elan Deluxe
  • Sled:2012 MXZ TNT 600

Posted 30 April 2019 - 04:49 PM

I believe if you wanted to get involved you contact the police with the story and proof that it is the same sled. They could direct it to their fraud and scam division if they feel its worth it. I bet if the police came knocking on this guys door he would take it seriously. It would be a shame for someone to get scammed out of their hard earned money on this. Some people have no morals or conscience.

#11 SKIDOZER500

SKIDOZER500

    On Thin Ice with Steve

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 32937 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Raymond/New Portland me
  • Sled:2016 tnt 900 ace 09 tnt500ss 05mxz 500ss

Posted 30 April 2019 - 04:56 PM

Or call him out on it:

REV3%20Lie.jpg

You left out the part of your messages with him that told him how many miles were really on the sled?


Sent from my iPhone three days ago

America,the home of the ENTITLED


#12 ncapster

ncapster

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 9598 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Just SW of Twin Cities
  • Sled:18 MXZ-X 850 & 18 MXZ Sport 600 ACE

Posted 30 April 2019 - 05:44 PM

I wonder what the deal is with this one?

https://minneapolis....6871062248.html


#13 TheBearAk

TheBearAk

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4721 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Sled:2015 Skidoo Renegade BC 600 etec

Posted 30 April 2019 - 06:11 PM

I wonder what the deal is with this one?

https://minneapolis....6871062248.html

 

Why do you ask?    The price is right in the middle of what the blue book says for a base price.    Seems legit to me.

 

 

As for dealing with the scammer.  Make another Ad with his pictures and explain that it actually has 15k miles on it.    Anyone looking for a machine will see both Ads.



#14 Layman

Layman

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 636 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Just outside Albany
  • Interests:Riding, a very little bit of golf, and being a dad.
  • Sled:2020 Renegade X 600R 1.5 IR

Posted 30 April 2019 - 07:41 PM

Why do you ask?    The price is right in the middle of what the blue book says for a base price.    Seems legit to me.

 

 

As for dealing with the scammer.  Make another Ad with his pictures and explain that it actually has 15k miles on it.    Anyone looking for a machine will see both Ads.

 

I like this.  Someone might still buy it without knowing, but at least it lets him know you know.   



#15 Trail Ryder

Trail Ryder

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3115 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Rochester, NY
  • Interests:Dirt Bikes and Snowmobiling
  • Sled:2014 XRS 800 ETEC with Quick Adjust

Posted 30 April 2019 - 08:03 PM

You left out the part of your messages with him that told him how many miles were really on the sled?

 

I did not tell him that I know that the sled has over 14,000 miles on it.  But I gave him the opportunity to come clean on the mileage and he chose NOT too.

 

Why do you ask?    The price is right in the middle of what the blue book says for a base price.    Seems legit to me.

 

As for dealing with the scammer.  Make another Ad with his pictures and explain that it actually has 15k miles on it.    Anyone looking for a machine will see both Ads.

 

I could care less what amount he sells it for and to who he sells it too.  But I do care that he knowingly advertises it with less miles than he really has on it.


'14 XRS 797 w/QA
'06 MXZ 597 Adrenaline X - Wife's
'08 Venture GT - PaPa's

'18 KTM 250 XCW (NY Street Plated 2-Stroke)

 

Long gone:

'13 T'NT 594

'09 T'NT 597

'08 T'NT 597

'05 MXZ 597





0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users