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#1 FlavorDave

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Posted 26 March 2019 - 12:57 PM

Long story short, my 2006 600SDI lost a piston in Yellowstone. I managed to ride 12 miles back to town to the dealer. Dealer said 0psi on the PTO side. Loaded it back into our trailer under it’s own power. Once back in Oregon, I moved it to a different trailer under it’s own power.

As the sled has 8K on the clock, I decided to go with the long block. The local dealer talked me into letting them do the swap, as they have a “master Ski Doo technician” in their employ....

Fast forward a month and a half, and they called and asked if the sled had any other issues before it dropped the PTO side cylinder. I told them the sequence of events above. I have never had a single issue before this, and I’ve owned it since 2006.

The service manager said that they could get it to fire, but it won’t idle. They called yesterday and asked for my blessing to order and install two sensors. At this point, it looks to me as if they are throwing parts at it and have no idea what the issue is.

Anybody got any ideas?

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Posted 26 March 2019 - 01:24 PM

Which sensors ?

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Posted 26 March 2019 - 01:30 PM

master Ski Doo technician... yeah, here we go  :shrug should have said he was Platinum certified, that's BRP's top level tech, not a lot of em out there


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Posted 26 March 2019 - 01:54 PM

Ask if they reset the TPS.

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Posted 26 March 2019 - 02:34 PM

Ask if they reset the TPS.

 

How would one do this?? At this point, I'm not sure they know. 


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Posted 26 March 2019 - 02:35 PM

master Ski Doo technician... yeah, here we go  :shrug should have said he was Platinum certified, that's BRP's top level tech, not a lot of em out there

 

Who the heck knows..... The worst part of all of this is that we just ordered two new sleds from this dealership, and these monkeys will be the ones prepping them.  :wacko:


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Posted 26 March 2019 - 02:36 PM

Which sensors ?

 

No idea. I didn't have time for a long discussion because I was in a work meeting at the time.


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Posted 26 March 2019 - 03:08 PM

I got the same problem . When cold pull 4 times fires and stalls ! 2 more fires stalls . If I can get to the throttle before it stalls and get it to rev up it will stay running . Once a little heat is I the engine runs like a dream.

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Posted 26 March 2019 - 03:10 PM

I tried new temp sensor and new gas and only a little better. Keep us informed please

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Posted 26 March 2019 - 03:30 PM

I tried new temp sensor and new gas and only a little better. Keep us informed please

 

Will do. 13 years without any issues and all of a sudden the brand new engine won't run right with the existing sensors. 


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Posted 26 March 2019 - 05:16 PM

Looks like the only platinum dealer in Oregon is Power Motorsports just out side of Bend. I ran a Platinum service dept. and those tech's are the no BS type, fix it or fall on the sword trying. Never found a sled they couldn't fix, though BRP shipped a few that would try them.   :wacko: 


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Posted 26 March 2019 - 05:21 PM

Looks like the only platinum dealer in Oregon is Power Motorsports just out side of Bend. I ran a Platinum service dept. and those tech's are the no BS type, fix it or fall on the sword trying. Never found a sled they couldn't fix, though BRP shipped a few that would try them.   :wacko:

 

Unfortunately, I don't think dealerships are paying enough to keep top quality techs these days. Buddy of mine worked at one of the larger Yamaha dealers and kept having to go into the shop to fix issues. He begged management.owners to raise wages and hire a couple of good techs, but they didn't seem to care. 


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Posted 26 March 2019 - 07:00 PM

$  20 CAN - Air Temperature Sensor

$  65 CAN - Throttle Position Sensor

$  75 CAN - Coolant Temperature Sensor

$315 CAN - Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor

 

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Posted 26 March 2019 - 07:01 PM

Are you dealing with a Ski Doo dealer that has the Buds/CanDoo software so they can communicate with the ECM? If not they'll be just throwing darts in hopes of hitting what the issue is

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Posted 26 March 2019 - 08:04 PM

Are you dealing with a Ski Doo dealer that has the Buds/CanDoo software so they can communicate with the ECM? If not they'll be just throwing darts in hopes of hitting what the issue is


I assume they have BUDS. They’re a pretty big dealer.

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