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#1 Brezentski

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 11:34 PM

BRP really dropped the ball on this sled.  No spares and no tools.   Did they forget that it's a 2-stroke??

 

Was 5 hours from home and a plug failed with 2100 miles on the sled.  Quickly discovered after searching through several gas stations and hardware stores that they can only be found at a dealer.  Managed to find a dealer an hour away and picked up some new ones.  Only wasted 4 hours!!  Now I have spares in my trailer.

 

Older sled had a place to carry spare plugs and came from the factory with tools that worked, so changing on the trail was no big deal.  Done it several times.  Couln't find a place to carry a spare and the tools that come on the belt guard for the xs renegade are useless.  Glad this didn't happen 4 hours ride from the trailer.

 

The only thing that worked was a plug socket and a wrench.  Probably would have been easier if I removed the hood, but don't want to carry more tools so I can take the hood off on the side of the trail!

 

Asked the dealer about trail tools and he looked at me like I was crazy.     

 

Wondering how others are carrying spare plugs and what tools they carry for changing.  



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Posted 24 January 2019 - 03:41 AM

It's recomended to replace plugs every two years. summer storage and bad gas are worse on plugs than mileage. with that said, imo the risk of a bad ignition coil are bigger than a bad spark plug.

A spark plug socket and wrench are the correct tools. Makke shure to have the plugs and socket marked so you can see when they are indexed.


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Posted 24 January 2019 - 06:27 AM

With the E Tecs I don’t carry spare plugs. I’ve never had issues though. As stated above, make sure you index your spark plugs.

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 06:35 AM

It's recomended to replace plugs every two years. summer storage and bad gas are worse on plugs than mileage. with that said, imo the risk of a bad ignition coil are bigger than a bad spark plug.

A spark plug socket and wrench are the correct tools. Makke shure to have the plugs and socket marked so you can see when they are indexed.

So-- a spark plug socket, and a wrench to turn the hex top of the socket will do the job?  You can do this through the restricted space without taking off the hood? 



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Posted 24 January 2019 - 07:50 AM

I think this is the first time I’ve heard of someone having to change a plug trailside on an etec. I don’t carry plugs and I don’t anyone who does.

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 07:58 AM

Wait till you want to do sparks on a 850 😉

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 08:06 AM

The tools needed for a trail side change is 3/4 bendable rachet wrench and a 5/8 spark plug socket. A sharpie helps for indexing. Its doable on the side of the trail but you have to let the machine cool off or risk burning your arm and hands
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Posted 24 January 2019 - 03:33 PM

If you’ve got to change plugs trail side on an etec, you’ve got bigger problems to deal with. I believe the manual for my 2016 says to change them at 6,000mi. People that change them early out of habit look at them and convince themselves they were way overdue because of how dirty they are. Gone are the days of the chocolate brown insulator; for some reason etec plugs run dirty...and etecs run great on those dirty plugs.

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 05:22 PM

So-- a spark plug socket, and a wrench to turn the hex top of the socket will do the job? You can do this through the restricted space without taking off the hood?


That's how I changed the plug in the trailer. Socket and wrench.

Since the factory set only lasted 2 years I'll change again in 2 unless I upgrade.

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Posted 25 January 2019 - 11:18 PM

The tools needed for a trail side change is 3/4 bendable rachet wrench and a 5/8 spark plug socket. A sharpie helps for indexing. Its doable on the side of the trail but you have to let the machine cool off or risk burning your arm and hands

Precisely how I do it. Way easier for me since I have a Team Secondary that I can pull off the jackshaft like the old days. 



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Posted 26 January 2019 - 10:53 AM

So-- a spark plug socket, and a wrench to turn the hex top of the socket will do the job?  You can do this through the restricted space without taking off the hood? 

Looking at the wire caps. It looks like they have some sort of clamp band around them. Do they just pull off of the spark plug like ordinary caps, or do I have to un-snap that clip looking band around them?   I don't want to just yank them off and risk pulling a wire out or something.



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Posted 26 January 2019 - 08:04 PM

 I put a tech link brace on my 14 800 xs. Had to remove upper mount bolt and loosen bottom mount  to get anything on pto plug, which was indeed 5/8 plug socket.



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Posted 27 January 2019 - 07:03 PM

These are from a 2015 800 and had 4400 miles on them. Glad I changed them.

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Posted 27 January 2019 - 07:19 PM

Looking at the wire caps. It looks like they have some sort of clamp band around them. Do they just pull off of the spark plug like ordinary caps, or do I have to un-snap that clip looking band around them? I don't want to just yank them off and risk pulling a wire out or something.


They’ll come off, just be patient. Twist and pull, twist and pull. Note the position of the boot on the insulator before you remove. A small bit of dielectric grease would help the boots slide back on. As said, sharpie to note the orientation to index. I use a 3/4 stubbie and the 5/8 socket. Torque wrench is really a challenge. I was able to get a crowfoot of the socket.




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Posted 27 January 2019 - 07:21 PM

Changed mine at 6k. Still looked great.


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