The actual number has to doo with the correction factor. The easiest way to see the 850RE is that it is 10HP stronger than the current 800s of the Arctic Cat, Polaris and Ski-Doo.
And just for comparison purposes here's the 800 E-Tec Vs the 1200. Notice at 6900 rpm they're practically putting out the same torque # (87.6 & 89.6 ft lbs). Now compare that to the 850 vs 1200 chart, at 6900 rpm the 850 is putting out 12+ more ft lbs of torque than the 1200 (87.6 & 100.2).
Same thing goes for HP. At 6900 rpm they're practically putting out the same HP (115.1 & 117.8). So less than a 3 HP difference between the 800 E-Tec and 1200 at 6900 rpm. Now compare that to the 850 vs 1200 chart, at 6900 rpm the 850 is putting out 16+ more HP than the 1200 (115.1 & 131.6)
Those graphs are exactly why i wont look back on my modded 1200, doo has converted me. You new guys here coming off 1200's will be blown away by the 850
Interesting that many spoke of the great torque on the 1200's and looking at the chart it's the 850 and the 800 showing increasing torque as rpms increase.
Can you repost the graph with the labels? You can either choose the First Row or First Column as a label, depending on how you arranged the data. It's a little confusing given the document name is 800 vs 1200 and there is no 1200 numbers. Otherwise I was stoked to see the graph
Edit: I apologize. Someone mentioned there was no 1200 in the graphs which was even more confusing.
Interesting that many spoke of the great torque on the 1200's and looking at the chart it's the 850 and the 800 showing increasing torque as rpms increase.
The difference is the 1200 has torque all the time, regardless of the RPMs, with the 800 you always have to be on the pipe to get any power out of it. Trail running the 800 at 60-65 MPH and it feels like it's laying down. The 1200 is ALWAYS happy.
On the original post, THANKS!
In the limited rides I did on the 850 it fixed everything that was wrong with the 800 - good enough to get me back on a 2 stroker.
With my last 2 stroker, a 15 800, I was thrilled to get back on a 1200. I'm looking forward to next season. New chassis, new engine, awesome power.
Interesting that many spoke of the great torque on the 1200's and looking at the chart it's the 850 and the 800 showing increasing torque as rpms increase.
Series 3,4 are the 850
Series 2,4 are the 800
If you look at the 1200 Vs 800 graph you can clearly see that the 1200 throws out more torque and HP than the 800 E-Tec up to 6,850 rpm. Course the 850 is a different story.
The charts are labeled up at the top. The first one is labeled " 850 E-Tec vs 1200 " and the second chart is labeled " 1200 vs 800 ". The upper set of lines are HP #s and the lower set of lines represent torque #s. Within the sets of lines the higher line is the two stroke with the exception of the mid-range on the 1200 vs 800 chart where the 1200 throws out more torque and HP than the 800 E-Tec up to around 6850 rpm where they cross paths.
On a side note if there's any Excel experts out there I'd love to know how to label the series.
Those graphs are exactly why i wont look back on my modded 1200, doo has converted me. You new guys here coming off 1200's will be blown away by the 850
The charts are labeled up at the top. The first one is labeled " 850 E-Tec vs 1200 " and the second chart is labeled " 1200 vs 800 ". The upper set of lines are HP #s and the lower set of lines represent torque #s. Within the sets of lines the higher line is the two stroke with the exception of the mid-range on the 1200 vs 800 chart where the 1200 throws out more torque and HP than the 800 E-Tec up to around 6850 rpm where they cross paths.
On a side note if there's any Excel experts out there I'd love to know how to label the series.
Well dont expect the top end the turbo had but the fun factor of a 850 is off the charts, they feel like toys under you. Ive had nitrous sleds, supercharged, turbos, and my 850 was still my absolute favorite sled by a long shot but if your the guy that wants to see 130 on the speedo you bought the wrong sled
I'll give you a good example.. My 850 ABSOLUTELY DESTROYS MY BUDDYS 1200 IN Every comparison you can throw at it except for maybe fuel consumption.. we never compared that.. Once you ride this sled you will never want to ride anything else. I guarantee it!
Well dont expect the top end the turbo had but the fun factor of a 850 is off the charts, they feel like toys under you. Ive had nitrous sleds, supercharged, turbos, and my 850 was still my absolute favorite sled by a long shot but if your the guy that wants to see 130 on the speedo you bought the wrong sled
So iv seen a hardcore sledder post talking about a high millage 850. An most of the post were bashing the 850 an saying how unreliable it is what not. I had to laugh at that. Because i know the 850 has been very a very amazing engine. I know its had its bugs but it was nothing wide spread.
Ski doo did an amazing job with this engine i hope they make a 850R or H.O.
The 850's were beating stock 177hp Cats 2012-2016 all winter there quick for sure.. I had a 16 zr9000 turbo the winter before. This sled is more fun. The midrange feels very four stroke like.
I rode Turbo sleds for 5 years and didn't miss them after getting back on the 800 Enduro........new chassis and motor are bringing it to a new level. I don't think the 1200 guys are going to have any regrets.
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