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[RJH]

Wow..about 170 HP from their red sled. I'm stunned...that is insane.

Oh..this is real..the dyno report was North America's most trusted dyno shop.

[SeDz]

They dump some serious coin into their motors. Even their riders can't take their mod motors with them end of season.

They're gonna be a force next season with kamm moving up and if bender can stay healthy.

[440x]

Believe it. Like said, they have tons of r&d in those motors. Few of them made their way into drag sleds in NY....FAST! Btw, their stockers are upper 140's on said dyno!

[Cor146]

Too bad it won't do them any good next season...

Manufacturers are pushing a spec mod motor that levels the playing field. Everyone will basically be running the
same motors, from the big $$ teams down to the privateer!

I was at the ISR meeting last month and I believe it passed

[shock-n-awe]

x2 ^^^^^

Leveling the playing field as stated between the privateer and factory teams, as the money isn't there for the smaller teams.

Not because Polaris motors were better than the rest of the field. We know better.

This will prove to make for a better racing program in the end for everyone IMO.

[SOSA-TNT]

Too bad it won't do them any good next season...

Manufacturers are pushing a spec mod motor that levels the playing field. Everyone will basically be running the
same motors, from the big $ teams down to the privateer!

I was at the ISR meeting last month and I believe it passed

Has that been officially announced? Is there a web site for ISR all I find is ISOC racing.

[RJH]

pretty sure it is confirmed

[RJH]

Too bad it won't do them any good next season...

I guess that is why they relesed the numbers. The dyno showed the engins for the last 4 years ..they gained about 10HP per year.

QUSTION..can you run any pipes with the new rule?

[Skidoo175]

No Bob.....factory supplied packages from the race department. Only mods you can do are chassis.

[shock-n-awe]

Has that been officially announced? Is there a web site for ISR all I find is ISOC racing.

No website for ISR..... New rulebook each year with updates.

[skiddd1]

Hate to say it but its almost a shame for them to pass a rule like that. Teams spend lots of time trying new ways to innovate to sport with ideas that could potentially be used on production sleds. I understand some teams can't afford to blow large amounts of $$$ on engines and r&d but its part of the sport. Has been for years and for them to pull something like that is a waste for sure. Competitive edges is what really makes the wrench side of everything interesting. I know some privateers will comment on this but at pro level ISOC races fans (most) love watching the different little tricks each team uses and if you want to run pro and be competitive at a national level you are pretty much forced to have a little extra chunk of cha-ching to blow. Examples: R.A.V.E. , IFS, Liquid cooled engines (x class in the 70's) and 4-stroke r&d. Not trying to offend anybody here but just had to say its a bummer for a rule like that to pass.

[shock-n-awe]

Not the best example, but Nascar has been trying to get the competition closer by essentially making the cars all alike both engines and body. This hasn't stopped the teams from pushing the limit of the rules, and sometimes getting caught.

Racing is racing. There have always been rules, and teams will always try and see what they can get away with regardless of any rules. This rule will establish a baseline for motors .

At the end of the day, we need more racers.
And we need to make an already expensive sport as affordable and competitive as we can to achieve that......this is one attempt at that goal.

[440x]

Sounds like a nightmare for tech...

[SeDz]

Sounds like a nightmare for tech...

Should be the opposite of that, way easier to find people 'cheating'. It will level the playing field a ton and force the manus to put more into designing a standard mod kit. To me there's a better chance of that concentrated technology making it to the production sleds then the current situation where each team has their own idea of what they need motor wise.
These 170 hp motors are only designed to last a moto or two at the most. Makes it really tough for smaller teams that can't afford to play that gambling game to stay competitive.

Also it should push them to look harder for chassis and suspension advantages which in my opinion is the most likely technology crossover between race sleds and production sleds.

[440x]

Should be the opposite of that, way easier to find people 'cheating'. It will level the playing field a ton and force the manus to put more into designing a standard mod kit.

Right, just like stock class....

Maybe I missed something, but it sounds like they are going from having to do bore/stroke only, since anything goes in mod as long as it is 600cc, to now having a spec motor that cant be changed. Who is going to check that it hasnt been changed? Going to pull all the winners apart and measure specs? Check for lightweight internals? That is not going to be easier than the current tech job.