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[Goughie]

Well, for some time now the same 2 bolts in my new boyesen rage cage setup just fall out after 1-2 rides no matter what, and they just spin now. Zero grab at all, but the threads them self are fine. What would be the best fix for this, I'd rather not use a bolt/nut, but if i can get a one thread size bigger bolt or maybe just somthing longer(threads might grab?) Then i'd be fine. Really dont wanna haul reeds and have to drill and tap and what not : (

Any suggestions are well apreciated!

[walchbuilders]

This has happened to me before. I just tapped the stripped hole to a M 6. I believe the bolts are M 5's to start with. I didn't even have to drill out the holes, the aluminum taps easily.

[I <3 skidoo (:]

longer bolts? had an issue some what like your with my v forces. just put a tap of the same size through to make sure no probs with threads then got longer bolts to come out the other end just a tad. (barely see it) went on a 700 or 800 mile trip no probs. or tap it to next size.

[XXROBBOBXX]

if i can remember correctly i believe i read that the Boyesen reeds didnt come with the correct size bolt....so this may just be your problem. should be an easy fix

[Goughie]

Kk thanks alot guys! will try all the above when i get off, it's weird because the vfroces on it did not have this problem so i think its just the 2 bolts, i will try a longer bolt the same size then if not tap to the next bigger.

[XXROBBOBXX]

im almost positive thats the problem people were having with the Boyesen's but thats not really a big deal.

i think they would send you the correct bolts for fee if you called them also. but you can find them yourself to im sure

[mbret2004]

This has happened to me before. I just tapped the stripped hole to a M 6. I believe the bolts are M 5's to start with. I didn't even have to drill out the holes, the aluminum taps easily.

Exactly! I have had to do numerous and this was an easy, reliable fix. Make sure to stuff a rag in the cylinder to keep the metal shavings out if you need to drill.

I believe I used a M6X1 tap. When you go to tighten the bolts upon installation, push the reed assembly tight against the cylinder. This will reduce the stress on the threads and decrease the chance of stripping. Good luck.

[Yamadoo500]

Tap it. Had the same problem with mine, but unfortunately it cost me a new cylinder!

[Goughie]

well my luck...I fix one bolt hole by just retapping the same size and then the next hole the tap broke off inside....so now im not really sure on what to do, its on the outter reed by the clutch and on the top bolt.

Edit: possibly drill out and M6 tap?I have the very bad feeling that getting that broken off tap out of their is going to be impossible, really dont want to ruin a cylinder on a brand new 800km motor.

[winter knight]

well my luck...I fix one bolt hole by just retapping the same size and then the next hole the tap broke off inside....so now im not really sure on what to do, its on the outter reed by the clutch and on the top bolt.

Edit: possibly drill out and M6 tap?I have the very bad feeling that getting that broken off tap out of their is going to be impossible, really dont want to ruin a cylinder on a brand new 800km motor.

You can't drill out a tap. the drill will just find the path of least resistance into the aluminum. I got lucky once when I broke one off near the surface, I got in there with a tiny cold chisel and was able to back it out. If you can get it to budge at all you have a chance. Good luck! You might also be able to cut a screwdriver slot into the tap with a dremel tool. don't worry if you mess up the first few threads in the hole, they are plenty deep enough. when you tap a hole I was taught to go in 1/4 turn then out 1/2 turn etc.

[Yamadoo500]

You can't drill out a tap. the drill will just find the path of least resistance into the aluminum. I got lucky once when I broke one off near the surface, I got in there with a tiny cold chisel and was able to back it out. If you can get it to budge at all you have a chance. Good luck! You might also be able to cut a screwdriver slot into the tap with a dremel tool. don't worry if you mess up the first few threads in the hole, they are plenty deep enough. when you tap a hole I was taught to go in 1/4 turn then out 1/2 turn etc.

X2 on the screwdriver slot if you can

[Goughie]

Screw driver slot i will try in the next day or two, i really don't wanna haul the motor. ive done it about 8 times in the last year on this machine, starting to not be fun anymore. Really hoping i can catch a break and get that sucker out, he broke off inside the hole, nothing sticking out.

[ZXMODV]

Screw driver slot i will try in the next day or two, i really don't wanna haul the motor. ive done it about 8 times in the last year on this machine, starting to not be fun anymore. Really hoping i can catch a break and get that sucker out, he broke off inside the hole, nothing sticking out.

I don't think your going to have any luck getting that tap out with a screwdriver. Worth a try, but it broke because it reached the end of the threads and bottomed or reached a part that the pilot hole wasn't big enough. They snap easily.One thing you might try is drilling 1/16 holes around the tap right against it, starting with the part right against the threads.Then against the flutes.Try and relieve the pressure on the sides enough to get it to wobble slightly.Once you get it moving,use some penetrating oil and drill against one flute with a slightly larger bit, so you can get a jewelers screwdriver in try and get it to turn/wobble till you get it out.Then clean up the hole and put in a 6mm helicoil, or even a 7 if you have to.I had the bolt break off, not a tap,and I had to tap it to a larger size.Worked ok. Good luck.

[watchthis907]

This has happened to me before. I just tapped the stripped hole to a M 6. I believe the bolts are M 5's to start with. I didn't even have to drill out the holes, the aluminum taps easily.

x2.easy fix

[144"Summit700]

Noticed a inside middle reed bolt backed half way out with about 4 threads off the casting, i must have over tightened when replacing them last year i feel bad and not sure if a longer bolt will work or not. I can almost get it to tighten about half a thread then just rolls over, i put some thread lock on it just to be able to sleep at night. Will that suck enough raw air to fry my cylinder? All other bolts are tight but not too sure to drill n tap or go with a heilcoil or kee.... can anyone help...