Big enough engine for hauling an enclosed trailer?
Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:43 PM
Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:50 PM
At the Teeswater Ont. truck pulls last summer a new ford ecoboost was the only truck I saw do a full pull. I think we watched 40-50 trucks try so I know they have power and traction. Do not know about mileage or anything else about them.
Mental note, do not go to the Teeswater Ontario truck pulls.
Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:31 PM
If you're speaking from experience , can you elaborate on this a bit ??
I tow a 4500# bbq pit with my eco. The harder you load it the more boost you get, just like any turbocharged engine. I towed back from southern georgia with it and the truck never came out of 6th gear on the highway doing 75mph unless I needed to pass someone on a grade. I averaged 14mpg with 3.73 gears. If you tow intermittently, this is the engine for you. Only reason for a diesel/heavy duty is if you consistently tow over 10k or you need to gooseneck/fifth wheel frequently. Save yourself 10 grand and get the eco half ton.
Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:34 PM
My brotherinlaw had a 5.3 and that thing pulled a 5th wheel no problem but in SCREAMED up the grades. Thought it was going to come apart. It never did. The dealership told him it is designed to handle it and it did.
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:45 PM
Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:57 PM
My Ram 1500 Hemi w 3.96 axles.
One thing to keep in mind-trucks are rated by engineered maximum towing capability. Save yourself and only tow with half it's rating.
A 1/2 ton will need many suspension parts, tires, brakes, wheel bearings, and trans before a 3/4 will begin to wear.
Posted 15 May 2012 - 09:15 PM
If you do go diesel I would avoid the Ford 6.0L. I have had 2 of them and they eat injectors, egr coolers and have terrible turbo lag which really gets scary trying to pull out on a busy highway when loaded. I am now on my second Duramax and am happy with them. With my 2011 I get 12.5 mpg pulling a 20' steel tilt deck equipment trailer with a 6000 pound scissor lift on it.
I guess there could be problems with any motor and I know the 6.0 liter Ford diesel is not without its issues. I have 3 trucks all with Ford 6.0 diesels in them and a combined mileage between the 3 trucks of 427,000 miles and not one issue besides the regular filters, brakes, tires and other wear items. These trucks are meticulously maintained and see mostly all highway miles but I love and swear by these motors. The newer motors with all the new emissions crap are what scare me but I guess we will have to wait and see. I think bottom line is every brand and motor has its issues, you just have to weigh the pros and cons of each and maintanance is key with anything.
Posted 15 May 2012 - 09:31 PM
x10. I have one with 243,000 on it. 2 injectors thats it and it kills my buddies 1/2tons
Get one of these and you can haul anything, tons of power and great fuel mileage!
Posted 15 May 2012 - 10:44 PM
I believe the gear is 3.73, As another post said, my 5.3 can pull it but it screams going up moderate grades of northern WI.
do your homework on axle gear ratios. that has alot to do with hauling and fuel milage. what gear is in your suburban? you could do a gear change and make it pull better maybe better mpg?
I like the idea of bringing my loaded trailer to the dealer and hooking up a new rig and comparing it to my current truck going 0-60.
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Posted 16 May 2012 - 06:54 AM
IMO rockstar tastes like an ashtray.. When tuned right, Monster will add more throttle burps per second than Rockstar.
Hope you didn't whack it too hard...I sure am glad I had the lid on or it could have hurt...
Posted 16 May 2012 - 06:55 AM
Turbo charged diesels are great at elevation and pulling grades..
As for mileage, they are only good if you can keep the speeds down to between 55 and 62 mph.
If you tow at 70 to 80 mph.. going west. The diesel is only good for about 1.5 mpg improvement over a gas engine... at least that has been my experience. And so maybe if you are lucky you go from 8.5 to 10 mpg.. Going to the Snowy's or Togwottee... Where the diesel excels is pulling grades, high elevation running or passing due to their tremendous torque.
I have towed a 4 place trailer with 5 sleds in it... with a number of ford trucks over the years from 4.7L gas engine..5.3L gas to 7.4L diesel.. 6.8L gas.. Ha ha.. it is a long trip up hill and against the wind going to Togwotte/Dubois area from Michigan with a 4.7 gas engine truck. You are always going against the wind on the way out while you are going up hill...
I am curious to try the F150 with V6 ecoboost...with twin turbos.. Ha ha.. if were going to keep it for many years, I suspect I would invest in an extended warranty.. DI injection and twin turbos.. on a non diesel is scary for the long haul. I have heard both good and bad experiences with this vehicle.
Real world with that long of trailer, specially if it is steel, I suspect you should have at least a 3/4 ton truck with the bigger brakes and running gear. Just my thoughts based on about 47 years of towing experiences - many years with steel race car trailers.. and since 1996 many different aluminum sled trailers.. .
Anyway as pds implied, you have to tow a number of miles with the diesel to offset the engine cost over the gas engine, if you tow at speed, as real world mileage is not that much better with the diesel. Now if you can hold the speeds down.. it will pay off quicker.
X2 i have a 2011 duramax its still terrible on fuel forget what you read online about mileage. Empty i average 16.5 mpg towing its in the 12's.
I too want to drive a ford eco boost.
Posted 16 May 2012 - 07:18 AM
I also haul a 24 foot travel trailer in the summer. With the weight distribution and sway control, you really often forget you are even hauling. I had a Tacoma prior to the Tundra. I was within the payload and towing capacity, but it was definately not enough truck in certain wind and traffic conditions. My opinion its ok to be near the payload and towing capacity for short occasions, but as stated earlier, for longer trips, staying at around half the tow rating is a good practice.
Posted 16 May 2012 - 12:50 PM
Posted 16 May 2012 - 02:29 PM
If you are trying to rationalize a new truck I can understand that too. Could I live with a 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton, I guess. But the family would hate me. My stuff would get ripped off from the box because I live in the thieving city. Happy truck shopping. If you are Suburboning, isn't there something new for 2014? I hope there is a diesel option in there.
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Posted 16 May 2012 - 02:42 PM
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