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[hitekbalancer]

Someone is brain washed...Lets keep burning our food,,driveing food prices up,,driveing transportation cost up,,Hmmm this is one of the reasons the economy is in the tank..

Yes I'm a glenn beck fan too and agree with you. The comment I made was about the fact that someone made the point that ethanol was dominated by only a few huge corporations and it's not. Many farmers are now addicted to the money that comes to them as a result of ethanol subsidies. They have created a another form of dependency on government as now their livelihood depends on government laws that bolster the ethanol industry.

Unfortunately the ethanol genie is out of the bottle. We are very dependent on it. We can complain about it all we want.

I doubt we will ever see it go away unless there is some sort of catastrophic event that damages our corn crop. In that case we have more to worry about than gas mileage or tank corrosion.

Agree about the food issue complete and an not brainwashed. it would help if you follow the thread before you take a dig.

We can complain about it all we want but in some places in country that is all we have. There is much misinformation about ethanol blend fuels.

I think many of the problems that users have with it are created by their own negligence. I have at least 20 combustion engines around my house and the ones I have problems with are the ones that get forgotten about.Have you ever cleaned out a tank that had racing gas in it for couple years?? That stuff will dissolve rubber. It turns to varnish if allowed to be open to air.It's just as nasty as ethanol blends.

[hitekbalancer]

I give up. You don't know anything about jetting, and you have no inclination to learn. Without knowing the hole size of a 400 jet, you cannot make the assertion that a 420 jet is 5% larger. It is not CC/MIN on Mikuni jets. Because a Mikuni 150 round jet flows the same as the a 275 hex jet, a 170 round jet flows the same as a 370 hex jet. Holley jetting, by example, on a 60 jet, the hole size is actually .058".

That is why I stated that I could measure it and THEN figure it out. But you took it upon yourself to designate that percentage. That is like saying I have two pipes. Pipe 1 and Pipe 2. By your formula, I can assume that pipe 2 is twice the size of the pipe 1 because 2 is twice as large as 1. Without knowing what size the pipe is it is impossible to say that.

Where, OH WHERE..point out (specifically) where I said ANYTHING about ANY percentages.

You keep making math equations with unkown factors and that have NO relavence. I have said nothing about percentages only MY specific engine.

If you want to tell people that they don't need to run different jetting for their sleds, by all means take responsibility for that. I will tell MY customer's that they should run 2 larger when running E10.

I am truely out of this - you are intent on trying to prove your point and keep mis-quoting what I write to try to make you look right. All you keep doing is digging the hole deeper.

Maize....OUT!!!I promise MXZEater....LOL

Mikuni mains are cc's/minute, kehin are hole size in mm. a 71 jet is .71 mm. You are right I know nothing about jetting. You win. By the fact that you are using two sizes up shows that you did say something about percentage. on a 400 main 2 sizes is 5%. Math has no relevance?

[snow dance]

LET IT GO! For the love of God,let it go.

[snowfreak56]

Yes I'm a glenn beck fan too and agree with you. The comment I made was about the fact that someone made the point that ethanol was dominated by only a few huge corporations and it's not. Many farmers are now addicted to the money that comes to them as a result of ethanol subsidies. They have created a another form of dependency on government as now their livelihood depends on government laws that bolster the ethanol industry.

Unfortunately the ethanol genie is out of the bottle. We are very dependent on it. We can complain about it all we want.

I doubt we will ever see it go away unless there is some sort of catastrophic event that damages our corn crop. In that case we have more to worry about than gas mileage or tank corrosion.

Agree about the food issue complete and an not brainwashed. it would help if you follow the thread before you take a dig.

We can complain about it all we want but in some places in country that is all we have. There is much misinformation about ethanol blend fuels.

I think many of the problems that users have with it are created by their own negligence. I have at least 20 combustion engines around my house and the ones I have problems with are the ones that get forgotten about.Have you ever cleaned out a tank that had racing gas in it for couple years?? That stuff will dissolve rubber. It turns to varnish if allowed to be open to air.It's just as nasty as ethanol blends.

I did follow the thread and ethanol has more bad points than good points IMO.And yes i have dealt with race fuel,methanol,gasahol,and ethanol,have raced large engines and small engines for years,on pump gas, race fuel,and methanol.Was also raised on a farm most grain farmers love the ethanol deal livestock farmers hate it because it drove livestock food prices up also.A ethanol plant is no way cost effective if it uses corn just to make ethanol only.

[DOO_TINT]

Mikuni mains are cc's/minute, kehin are hole size in mm. a 71 jet is .71 mm. You are right I know nothing about jetting. You win. By the fact that you are using two sizes up shows that you did say something about percentage. on a 400 main 2 sizes is 5%. Math has no relevance?

kehin main jets go up in size by 2-3#/say 160,162,165,168 and maybe a 178 is a similar size to a 400 mikuni main,,,,kehin mainjets go from 110-235/mikuni go from 100-600 for carbs above 24mm

2-3 sizes bigger main may be needed for eth gas depending on what you are doing with what eng/say extended WOT go bigger or short drag races or 1/2 throttle type riding you can get away with smaller main/maybe and older 2 strokes will benefit from richer jetting with pump gas

spec recomendation for VP 4.4 oxygenated race gas says you may need 2 main sizes and 2 size bigger pilot for best results

[hitekbalancer]

kehin main jets go up in size by 2-3#/say 160,162,165,168 and maybe a 178 is a similar size to a 400 mikuni main,,,,kehin mainjets go from 110-235/mikuni go from 100-600 for carbs above 24mm

2-3 sizes bigger main may be needed for eth gas depending on what you are doing with what eng/say extended WOT go bigger or short drag races or 1/2 throttle type riding you can get away with smaller main/maybe and older 2 strokes will benefit from richer jetting with pump gas

spec recomendation for VP 4.4 oxygenated race gas says you may need 2 main sizes and 2 size bigger pilot for best results

Yes you are correct. I measured a 420 mikuni. A .0705 pin fit perfectly. therefore .0705 x 25.4 = 1.78mm. or #178 Yes similar...

[RainmanX]

If you don't like the fuel, don't buy it. If you want to change the regulations, run for office.

Someday you will look back and wish "wow that E10 was great", I hate this mandated E100!

[snowfreak56]

If you don't like the fuel, don't buy it. If you want to change the regulations, run for office.

Someday you will look back and wish "wow that E10 was great", I hate this mandated E100!

Hard not to buy it when it gets forced on us and that is all you can buy..